Sep 18, 2026 · 46 min · 11 segments
Every day, people type sensitive information into free artificial intelligence (AI) tools without thinking twice about where that data actually goes. In this episode of “Bay Area Innovators,” host…
Dustin StoutGuest
Steve IspasHost
A lot of these companies, they built a huge market cap, huge valuations based on what people invest in, what people think that they're going to be valuable.

Now, would you say that's part of their business model or is just a loophole that people have not been able to close yet?

I mean, any big tech company over the last several decades has known that the most valuable thing that they have is data and using that data to produce better outcomes, to improve upon outcomes.

The old marketing adage is what gets measured gets improved, right? If you have the ability to measure something, you can improve it.

With AI models in particular, in order for them to get smarter, they need more data and they need better data.

And so all these AI companies, every single one of them, in order for them to continue to innovate and create better models, they need more data.

And the big problem that they're at now is, well, what happens when you've already trained on all the data? What happens when you've already consumed all of the internet and all of written history? well, you need new data, you need new information.

And the way that you get that is by having people use your products and use that information to train the next big model.



A lot of these companies, they built a huge market cap, huge valuations based on what people invest in, what people think that they're going to be valuable.

Now, would you say that's part of their business model or is just a loophole that people have not been able to close yet?

I mean, any big tech company over the last several decades has known that the most valuable thing that they have is data and using that data to produce better outcomes, to improve upon outcomes.

The old marketing adage is what gets measured gets improved, right? If you have the ability to measure something, you can improve it.

With AI models in particular, in order for them to get smarter, they need more data and they need better data.

And so all these AI companies, every single one of them, in order for them to continue to innovate and create better models, they need more data.

And the big problem that they're at now is, well, what happens when you've already trained on all the data? What happens when you've already consumed all of the internet and all of written history? well, you need new data, you need new information.

And the way that you get that is by having people use your products and use that information to train the next big model.


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