Jul 12, 2026 · 1 hr 7 min · 10 segments
Phil and Andis chop it up.
Phillip LietzHostAndis ArietaGuest
You know, and, and this is funny, um, because I think that's one of the things that kinda leads me...

I'm wondering if the kinds of animals that I'm able to keep and work with, because they're so amenable to the conditions, amenable to the conditions that I can provide, I'm wondering if that's one of the things that keeps driving me towards this concept of dome- of domestication, that what we're doing with in herpetoculture is domestication.

I'm, I'm completely blanking on the concept, but it's the, the concept of, uh, from biology, from, from, from evolution about how, uh...
Maybe that was Lo- I think it's Laland was the, one of the original authors of that.

My understanding is that there's some controversy, like, the idea that traditional Darwinian-style evolution kind of covers this and that it's just this...

It's just not anything especially new, but then sort of the proponents of it suggest it's like, actually, this is a pretty subtle, nuanced view of the way that broad systems feed back on themselves in ways...

Like an, you know, an organism's evolution is also gonna change the environment that forces its evolution.

You know, and, and this is funny, um, because I think that's one of the things that kinda leads me...

I'm wondering if the kinds of animals that I'm able to keep and work with, because they're so amenable to the conditions, amenable to the conditions that I can provide, I'm wondering if that's one of the things that keeps driving me towards this concept of dome- of domestication, that what we're doing with in herpetoculture is domestication.

I'm, I'm completely blanking on the concept, but it's the, the concept of, uh, from biology, from, from, from evolution about how, uh...
Maybe that was Lo- I think it's Laland was the, one of the original authors of that.

My understanding is that there's some controversy, like, the idea that traditional Darwinian-style evolution kind of covers this and that it's just this...

It's just not anything especially new, but then sort of the proponents of it suggest it's like, actually, this is a pretty subtle, nuanced view of the way that broad systems feed back on themselves in ways...

Like an, you know, an organism's evolution is also gonna change the environment that forces its evolution.
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