Sarah Hartshorne And Pamela Schuller On The Tall And Short Of Reality TV
Sep 15, 2026 · 1 hr 8 min · 13 segments
In this week’s episode (The 250th!) I sat down with Sarah Hartshorne and Pamela Rae Schuller. Sarah is a writer and comedian best known for none of those things: she was the plus size contestant on…
In this week’s episode (The 250th!) I sat down with Sarah Hartshorne and Pamela Rae Schuller. Sarah is a writer and comedian best known for none of those things: she was the plus size contestant on Cycle 9 of America’s Next Top Model. In addition to writing her first book, You Wanna Be On Top?, she has also written for the Guardian, Vogue, Gawker, Teen Vogue and more. She has also performed standup all over the country and at Edinburgh Fringe Festival. Pamela is a professional stand-up comedian, storyteller, and internationally recognized disability advocate who transforms neurological chaos into powerful messages of inclusion and authenticity. Featured on Netflix, NBC, and in The New York Times, she blends humor, research, and lived experience to change how we think about disability and mental health. We discuss existing in bodies that are often represented, but do not tell the full story, representation vs. entertainment through the lens of reality television and so much more. This episode was edited and produced by Ben Curwin. Join Always Looking Up on Substack: https://jilliancurwin645746.substack.com Join The Patreon: https://patreon.com/AlwaysLookingUp Follow Sarah: Instagram: @sarahbhartshorne TikTok: @sarahbhartshorne Website: https://www.sarahbhartshorne.com Buy "You Wanna Be On Top?" Follow Pamela: Instagram: @pamelacomedy TikTok: @pamelacomedy Website: https://pamelacomedy.com Follow Me: Instagram: @jill\_ilana , @alwayslookingup.podcast TikTok: @jillian\_ilana Website: https://www.jillianilana.com Email: [alwayslookingup227@gmail.com](mailto:alwayslookingup227@gmail.com) Read With Me: Goodreads The StoryGraph Support the organizers, detainees and their families at Delaney Hall: Donate To Family Support Funds: linktr.ee/SupportOurFamilies Donate to the Commissary Fund: [givebutter.com/commissaryfund](givebutter.com/commissaryfund) Call your representative: https://5calls.org Learn More: [indivisible.org/campaigns/dismantling-detention](indivisible.org/campaigns/dismantling-detention) Support Minneapolis: Stand With Minnesota: https://www.standwithminnesota.com MN NOICE: https://mnnoice.com Community Aid Network MN: https://www.canmn.org Support Immigrant Communities: The Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights of Los Angeles (@chirla\_org): https://www.chirla.org/donatenow/ Immigrant Defenders Law Center (@immdef\_lawcenter): https://www.immdef.org Inland Coalition 4 Imm Justice (@ic4ij): https://secure.actblue.com/donate/jornaleros
In this week’s episode (The 250th!) I sat down with Sarah Hartshorne and Pamela Rae Schuller. Sarah is a writer and comedian best known for none of those things: she was the plus size contestant on…
