E147 | Feminine Violence w/ Adriana Forte, Pamela von Sabljar & Valeria Ferreira

I'm noticing being nervous about it so my hands are a little bit wet and just before we started recording I shared that I just dawned on me how sacred this conversation is and I lit a little candle here next to me with the intention of goodwill and I think when I saw your email, Tim, it was very important to me.

I don't know if I would have said yes to this conversation in any context.

The people that are here matter.

I know Pamela and I know Valeria and I know...

You and I know the people that are attending this session.

And I trust your listeners and I trust the cauldron that you hold or that you invite in to explore these complex topics.

So I think that this felt very important to me.

because I'm in a world that still has lots of physical violence and many of my friends work with domestic violence.

For me to really explore and go deep into female violence, it feels it had to be in the spirit of generosity, generosity of everyone involved.

So, yeah, that's what I'd like to start with.

Excited to be here.

Thank you, Adriana.

I can notice when you share your intention of the sacredness of this conversation and that you have lit a candle of goodwill.

It really touched me.

I could just say, oh, yeah.

What if that could be like the...

the glue that keeps difficult or complex conversations together, like just goodwill, like to lean in and to lean back and to open deeper and to listen more and ask more than, than assuming that I know what you mean or what you say, who you are, what you do.

So I could just start like, oh, that felt so good.

So thank you for doing that.

And I could notice my first impulse for entering this conversation was the... to make a couple of distinctions.

Like, what are we really talking about? And is my word the same as your word? So just to clarify a bit before we go deeper in.

And one thing for me that I feel called to make a distinction about is like, feminine, I would like to invite, or that's where I will say that's where I will stand in my way of speaking in this conversation.

As the feminine as a psychological principle that both men and women have within and when it also is embodied within women.

So that for me is a valuable distinction.

And also that I have noticed in conversation around violence that there seem to be a tendency that people will go to violence means physical act, like hitting or like some kind of physical abuse towards someone else.