(CS)²AI Podcast Show: Control System Cyber Security
Oct 6, 2026 · 46 min · 12 segments
The Cassandra Panel: OT Threat Intelligence from April to Now Bryan Singer revisits an April threat briefing to ask what changed in six months, and the answer is a lot. Georgia Tech's Saman Zonouz…
Bryan SingerHost
Saman ZonouzGuest
Brad WilletGuestDaryl HaegleyGuest
So yeah, you know, again, if, and for those that were at the Level Zero Conference in April or for those on this panel, you know, we talked a lot about... 'Cause right about that time, it was only maybe a couple of weeks after the big announcement came out about, uh, IRGC Iranian, uh, Iranian Net Guard, uh, um, going after Rockwell PLCs.

Uh, so again, actually I just made this point earlier today is, you know, the, the gap between somebody that has control system security expertise and knowing how to attack control systems, and going from that gap to being able to apply that like an insider or an insider equivalent, that gap is, is...

Uh, I mean, I could put attack profile packages together pretty quickly, but being able to get to the level of being able to launch an attack that would really have damaging consequences in OT still may take me months to years.

One's a data concentrator bringing back control net, device net, and ethernet IP into one network connection that shares to a historian, and another controller identical that's attached to drives, motors, and controllers and in, and is, you know, the attack is, is, is working in physical areas in the process.

The same vulnerability and the same thing I could launch is gonna have two different potential impacts there, right? So being able to take somebody that has control system knowledge and knowing I can send the SIP reset command or SIP stop or forward open a bunch of times, and I could cause a lot of problems with that Rockwell controller, and knowing the downstream impact, is this attached to a hydrocracker, or is this attached to a dra- data concentrator? That gap is shortening dramatically, and that's actually one of the technical sessions we did There at level zero is I showed using AI tools with some tools they built.

We put them in interactive session, and the AI agent figured out how to turn things on and off on its own in a period of time there.


There was new TTPs where they were actually looked like they had moved on to doing some measure of safety logic tampering, hearkening back to some of the Tri- and Tricon- Triconex days.

Uh, we had CloudSEK and about 60 other agents and act groups who looked like they had been joining since that time.


So it really, again, the, the, the point that was made here is that attack, those attacks we saw are, were becoming commoditized.

Uh, m- that included Mi- Minnesota, New Jersey, Alabama Utilities, all in public record for 2026 activity.

So yeah, you know, again, if, and for those that were at the Level Zero Conference in April or for those on this panel, you know, we talked a lot about... 'Cause right about that time, it was only maybe a couple of weeks after the big announcement came out about, uh, IRGC Iranian, uh, Iranian Net Guard, uh, um, going after Rockwell PLCs.

Uh, so again, actually I just made this point earlier today is, you know, the, the gap between somebody that has control system security expertise and knowing how to attack control systems, and going from that gap to being able to apply that like an insider or an insider equivalent, that gap is, is...

Uh, I mean, I could put attack profile packages together pretty quickly, but being able to get to the level of being able to launch an attack that would really have damaging consequences in OT still may take me months to years.

One's a data concentrator bringing back control net, device net, and ethernet IP into one network connection that shares to a historian, and another controller identical that's attached to drives, motors, and controllers and in, and is, you know, the attack is, is, is working in physical areas in the process.

The same vulnerability and the same thing I could launch is gonna have two different potential impacts there, right? So being able to take somebody that has control system knowledge and knowing I can send the SIP reset command or SIP stop or forward open a bunch of times, and I could cause a lot of problems with that Rockwell controller, and knowing the downstream impact, is this attached to a hydrocracker, or is this attached to a dra- data concentrator? That gap is shortening dramatically, and that's actually one of the technical sessions we did There at level zero is I showed using AI tools with some tools they built.

We put them in interactive session, and the AI agent figured out how to turn things on and off on its own in a period of time there.


There was new TTPs where they were actually looked like they had moved on to doing some measure of safety logic tampering, hearkening back to some of the Tri- and Tricon- Triconex days.

Uh, we had CloudSEK and about 60 other agents and act groups who looked like they had been joining since that time.


So it really, again, the, the, the point that was made here is that attack, those attacks we saw are, were becoming commoditized.

Uh, m- that included Mi- Minnesota, New Jersey, Alabama Utilities, all in public record for 2026 activity.
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