EP35: The Jagged Frontier of Enterprise AI | Why AI Adoption Is Failing with Satish Viswanathan

Well, let's start by talking about an article from CNBC and published many other places that New York last quarter passed San Francisco in terms of total tech jobs.

Not necessarily all the same jobs.

I think a lot of your deep, hardcore Internet engineers are still on the West Coast.

What do you guys think about that? Anybody surprised or not surprised?

No, I feel like with AI, most of the financial industry has been leading a lot of it.

And that's how the speed of everything and the agility of how it's been implemented was framed from the beginning.

I won't make any commentary on that, but I do think that that has had a huge influence on why there is so much tech and interest in tech all of a sudden in New York City.

I am surprised that that happened so quickly.

I think I

would have

expected it

to take a couple more waves.

I mean, we have this big theory that we talk about all the time on the podcast, which is like New York City is the applied AI capital of the

world.

A bunch of Fortune 500 headquarters here.

It's the center of gravity for a whole bunch of industries.

But I think it is also kind of telling when you think about like overall tech jobs, which is the metric that this was targeting.

focusing on, they're not necessarily all AI.

And I feel like people are so fixated on like AI as this bubble that, you know, you forget that like that is, you know, 0.2% of the population that is focusing on kind of like these deep like foundational model development companies.

And then there are a lot that are focused on, you know, okay, like, technology at a large bank that still qualifies as a tech job.

Yeah, I mean, I think it's an interesting headline and I'll see like once that follows by like applied AI jobs, that's when I'll start to get really interested.

Yeah, I mean, you probably have a lot of, I've got to think this is the home of AI governance people.

For sure.

For sure.

And you have, you know, when you look at it, so we just had the OpenRouter acquisition in August by Stripe.