Against The Grain with Albee Layer and Jack Freestone
Sep 6, 2026 · 1 hr 16 min · 13 segments
Zeke Lau on WASHED. From Hawaiʻi roots to the world stage—we talk surfing, competition, family, setbacks, mentality, and everything that comes with chasing it at the highest level.
Zeke LauGuest
Jack FreestoneHost
Like when I look at someone like yourself, man, like you're doing some of the best surfing I think I've ever seen you do.
And I think it probably comes from a place where you're not restricted mentally, physically.
How do you feel now? How does surfing feel to you now compared to what it did a few years ago?
it just changed how I felt and thought about surfing to the point where like, I, I can't say I was enjoying it a lot.
Like when I look at someone like yourself, man, like you're doing some of the best surfing I think I've ever seen you do.
And I think it probably comes from a place where you're not restricted mentally, physically.
How do you feel now? How does surfing feel to you now compared to what it did a few years ago?
it just changed how I felt and thought about surfing to the point where like, I, I can't say I was enjoying it a lot.
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