Against The Grain with Albee Layer and Jack Freestone
Aug 3, 2026 · 55 min · 15 segments
Five-time World Champ. Olympic gold medalist. One of the greatest to ever do it. 🌊🏆 Carissa Moore joins us on Washed to talk surfing, life, pressure, stepping away, and everything in between. This…
Carissa MooreGuest
Albee LayerHost
Jack FreestoneHost
No, I was just gonna say, it's cool that you got to experience, um, the non-priority side of surfing too with the men, 'cause I feel like that was, like, a different style of surfing a- and different way of competing, 'cause there was, like, how I look at it, there's, like, before priority and then after priority competition surfing.
Oh, no, I was gonna say, I just, I still hate that first five-minute exchange when there's no priority.
Anytime I'd get, like, a good friend in a heat, I don't know if you have rituals with your friend, 'cause it's, like, more common with the women surfing, like, good friends coming up against each other.
But when I'd come up against someone like Joel or, you know, Mick or someone who I was staying with or very close friends with, there'd be, like, a little ritual where we'd, like, flip something, and it's like, "Okay, you get priority.
Whoever wins gets pri..." Is, did, did that ever happen on the girls' side of things?
things?Um, it hasn't happened, uh, yet, but, uh, I've been traveling a lot with Gabriela Bryan.
She's one of my best friends on tour, and we had a heat this year in El Salvador, and I was like, "Can we just flip a coin?" [laughs]
No, I was just gonna say, it's cool that you got to experience, um, the non-priority side of surfing too with the men, 'cause I feel like that was, like, a different style of surfing a- and different way of competing, 'cause there was, like, how I look at it, there's, like, before priority and then after priority competition surfing.
Oh, no, I was gonna say, I just, I still hate that first five-minute exchange when there's no priority.
Anytime I'd get, like, a good friend in a heat, I don't know if you have rituals with your friend, 'cause it's, like, more common with the women surfing, like, good friends coming up against each other.
But when I'd come up against someone like Joel or, you know, Mick or someone who I was staying with or very close friends with, there'd be, like, a little ritual where we'd, like, flip something, and it's like, "Okay, you get priority.
Whoever wins gets pri..." Is, did, did that ever happen on the girls' side of things?
things?Um, it hasn't happened, uh, yet, but, uh, I've been traveling a lot with Gabriela Bryan.
She's one of my best friends on tour, and we had a heat this year in El Salvador, and I was like, "Can we just flip a coin?" [laughs]
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