Episode 47 - Dr Judy Dlamini: Power, Accountability & the Burden of the African Woman

I thought maybe we begin with the The big story making the news in the country.

In Campton Park, in Eguruleni, nine women's bodies were found day after day after day after day.

Returning to the center, South Africa's nightmare, which is its murder, that it's a killing machine against women who are in the majority.

vulnerable African women.

But in general, there's this country, whether they are white, whether they are African, women are getting killed.

I wonder if we could begin on your thoughts when you saw that story on the one hand, but also what do you think it tells us about the state of the state?

Well, firstly, thanks for having me, Doc.

I like calling you Doc.

You know, as I was saying earlier on, I used to walk, you know, in the streets in Houtenck.

After work, and there was this one time in 2009 where as I was working, a guy came out, took out a gun and had to run to the middle of the street because I felt safer amongst fast cars than with a gun in his hand.

And I stopped walking after that.

And for some reason, because I've been walking quite a bit in other cities, I actually thought, you know what, I just think it's a mental thing.

I need to, you know, deal with it, you know, the fear.

And let me start walking again in the same week that these women were discovered.

And I had to stop, you know.

The thing about the lack of safety for any person, especially women in this country, is an indictment on the constitutional right to be safe.

The stage is failing us.

I am of the view that we tend to focus on the wrong things.

Men are this.

That's not the core of the problem in my view.

If you can't protect your citizens, if you can't protect the most vulnerable amongst them, women and children, you've failed.

the basic duty of keeping your citizens safe.

So for me, that is the fundamental problem.

The fundamental problem is let's be accountable as leaders.

In any job, Your KPIs are clear.