Blackwood Farm

Today I'm talking with Hayden at Blackwood Farm.  This episode is sponsored by Greenbush Twins & Company. https://www.homesteadliving.com/subscribe/ref/41/ https://homesteadliving.com/the-old-fashioned-on-purpose-planner/ref/41/ www.patreon.com/atinyhomestead If you'd like to support me in growing this podcast, like, share, subscribe or leave a comment. Or just buy me a coffee  https://buymeacoffee.com/lewismaryes 00:00 You're listening to A Tiny Homestead, the podcast comprised entirely of conversations with homesteaders, cottage food producers, and crafters. I'm your host, Mary Lewis. This episode is sponsored by Greenbush Twins & Company, where creativity and community grow hand in hand. Just like a thriving garden or a well-loved homestead, the best things are built with care, purpose, and heart. Through thoughtful design, storytelling, and handcrafted goods, they're helping people celebrate a simpler or meaningful way of living. Learn more at Greenbush Twins & Company. 00:28 Today I'm talking with Hayden Blackwood at Blackwood Farm in Washington State. Good morning Hayden. How are you? morning.  How is the weather there? You know today we're in like the mid 60s and we're finally starting to get some actual clean air again. We've been witnessing a lot of wildfires kind of surrounding the Skagit Valley which where we call home and you know it's been kind of a sad 00:58 pattern here for a few years now where, you know, it gets dry in the summertime and all the vegetation from the winter gets struck by like lightning or whatever way of ignition will start. so our valley around here has been either blue skies or gray smoke filled skies. It's kind of a mix here for the last few weeks.  Yeah, it's been crazy with wildfires all over the country. I just saw something, some 01:26 I don't know what the heck it's called.  The thingy at the bottom of the news screen that mentioned the wildfires in Texas right now.  Yes, yes, yeah.  It's one of the things I learned, and this was just rather recently, but I always kind of, guess, inherently thought, oh, if you got a really wet, drenched out, rainy winter,  that would kind of, you would think,  make a wildfire season not as dangerous, but it's actually the opposite. 01:56 that all that hydration up in the high country causes more vegetation growth and can cause even more of a severe fire season like we've been experiencing up here in like, you know, kind of the north, you know, northwest part of the state and the country and our friends up in Canada as well.  Yeah, it's bad. And I hope that you remain safe and that your property is okay for the rest of the season. 02:22 I'm in Minnesota. It is it's kind of nippy here this morning. It's a little chilly and it's partly sunny and there's no wind and We the town I live in Has something I still don't know what it is. I've lived here for six years I still don't know what causes this but every once in a while the air just smells gross It smells like fertilizer 02:50 And it's not necessarily anyone is fertilizing the fields around us. So we've got that going on. And man, at 10 o'clock last night, I thought we had a gas leak in our gas cook stove and I checked and everything was fine. I stepped outside and I was like, oh no, it's outside. So that's what I'm smelling.  Yeah. And it's only once in a while, so you can put up with it, but I still don't know what causes it. Still have no idea.  One of those unfortunate mysteries. 03:19 Yes, but where we live is really pretty so I will put up with it So, um, I usually say tell me a little bit about yourself and what you do and I want to hear about that But why is it Blackwood farm because Blackwood is your last name? Yes, exactly. Okay All right. Well, then tell me a little bit about yourself and what you do well What we do is my wife and I and our four kids we went and we purchased a five acre farm here 03:49 old number of years ago.  And I guess just to put it real simply, what we have been doing here seasonally is we run a you pick pumpkin patch during the fall where, you know, in our town of Cedar Woolly where we live, there's not a lot of like,  real like, you know, agritourism like stuff to do specifically in our town.  So us and there's one other small little 04:19 patch.  We both kind of opened up simultaneously close to the same time and we we open our venue, you know, we have pumpkins and you know, general public will come through.  But our attraction that we kind of try to host within this is more of kind of like a traditional kind of like coming to grandma and grandpa's farm as a way I kind of try to portray it. And this comes from just my own childhood. 04:45 going to see my grandparents when I was young and when my folks lived in town before we moved out to the country.  And I had so many fond memories as, you know, growing up, remembering just how excited I was to go see, you know, Grandpa Ron's barnyard, you know? And so I've kind of, in a sense, took in that legacy and just that nostalgic, you know, great feeling. And I've tried my best to, you know, share it with, you know, the guests that come through here. And it's been a lot of fun. 05:14 fantastic and I'm glad that I messaged you when I did because in a week or so you're gonna be straight out busy and you would not have time talk to me.  Oh I would have made time for you anything.  Okay cool thank you. Yeah of course.  So do you I gotta know I was thinking this this morning and I was like I should save this to the end but I'm gonna ask you now. Okay. Do you have leftover pumpkins at the end of the season? You know we 05:43 Don't and I'm one of the kind of the strategies that we've done with our kind of our marketing is first of all Raising four kids which actually was five our nephew kind of came in with our story and so we we've had five kids come through our house and We've always been just extremely mindful of you know budgetary expense, I mean your dollar only goes so far and 06:11 So one of the things we've always tried to do is we try to kind of like model our prices to like the local grocery store instead of trying to like gouge the visitors coming through. We make it so, you know, they get a good bargain and we're not losing our booty at the end of it. All of that makes sense. You know, kind of just run really lean and mean on your expense. You can pull it off. But to answer your first question though, the pumpkins that 06:40 We have that are left over. I've had enough of a calling from neighbors that surround our community here with animals and whatnot,  but livestock feed. It's been a great resource for livestock feed and a lot of people don't know either, but pumpkins are a natural dewormer. So there's people that will actually want them.  you don't want to give them to a horse,  like goats, cows, I've even heard a sheep eating them. Chickens love them. And so 07:09 We sell, know, like again, it's affordable, but people come in by the pickup load and just clean our field off and then take them away and go have their good time with it.  So if you did have a surplus,  have ways to get rid of it. would compost if there was. Yes. Yes. We're, big into composting. Okay.  Um, on the natural dewormer thing,  roasted pumpkin. 07:37 with no seasoning,  nothing, no oils, no nothing, just roasted in the oven.  The flesh is a really good thing to give dogs when their tummies are sick.  Interesting. I did not know that.  Yeah, we have a dog. She's six. She's a small Australian shepherd and she has had a sensitive stomach since we got her at a day shy of eight weeks old. And she came down with some kind of tummy thing when she was 08:06 I think she was probably nine months old and I called the vet because I wasn't going to take her in just because she threw up.  The vet was like, do you have any squash or pumpkin? And I said, yes, I have roasted squash from our garden in my freezer. And she said, did you season it with anything? And I said, no. And she said, take some of that, know, warm it up and cook up some burger with no seasonings, no nothing. 08:35 and make some white rice, no seasonings, no nothing. Mix that all together and give her like a quarter cup and see if she keeps it down.  wow. That is incredible.  Yeah. Yeah. And it works. And it was so stupid because she was so puny. She was laying on the floor looking at me like, I'm sick.  And like a little kid will look at you when they don't feel good. Yeah. Yeah. And I 08:59 cooked up that burger and she could smell it. And by the time I put the rice and the burger and the squash in the bowl and stirred it together,  she was sitting at attention at my feet like, okay, I'm good enough to eat that.  that's great. Oh, thank you for sharing that. That'll be one of those. mean, one of the things I love to do during the fall, you it's like, you'll have visitors that come through and they visit, talk and... 09:26 And so anytime I could bring up something like, hey, have you heard about this? Like one of the things that my wife came across this years ago is,  I don't know if you've ever heard of pumpkin chili.  I have heard of it, Oh, it's amazing. If you have not done it, you have to try it. It is so good. And it's one of those, everybody kind of like when you mention it, face to face, you'll get that like cringy looking like, oh, I don't want to eat that. I don't want to have pumpkin spice chili, but you don't. 09:56 You don't even taste the pumpkin in it. I mean, it's just, gives it more of a stock and more of a hearty. it's absolutely amazing how you can't rant enough about it. So if you haven't tried it, go for it. There's a ton of recipes out there.  Oh yeah. I'm one those people who put cinnamon and really good cocoa in my chili.  So, yeah.  Yup. Love to cook.  I don't want to, I don't want to get too far into the whole thing with the dog, but, uh, 10:25 I'm talking about winter squash. When I say squash, winter squash, not zucchini,  not yellow crook neck.  And dogs actually like zucchini and yellow crook neck and cucumbers and watermelon. And those are all safe things to give them too.  Yes.  You don't want to have your dog be a quote unquote vegetarian because they really do need meat. They need the protein. Yeah.  But they really like. 10:54 fruit snacks and veggie snacks now and then. Yep, I imagine it probably does good for their enzymes and their stomach and everything. Yeah, and pumpkin and winter squash is really good for their coats, for their fur. Yes, yes. And it's good for people hair too. It's really good for your hair.  Pumpkin is a great food for your hair and your eyes. Well, we've noticed when we do this thing for our chickens, we'll take a pumpkin and 11:22 kind of hang it up off of the roof of our coop. So it's just kind of like hanging there. It's almost like a chandelier, but they can reach it if that makes sense.  the egg production,  we will always notice an uptick in our hens laying the minute they get fresh pumpkin introduced into kind of the rest of like the dietary program that we give them.  And yeah, there's some great goodies to it. It's more than just carving out and putting in a candle in it, you know?  Yes,  pumpkins. 11:52 Dude, pumpkins are so great.  And we have baking pumpkins in our garden right now.  they're, waiting for the first frost because they're always better after the first frost. Yes. Yes, exactly.  So how, I got to know how big is the biggest jack-o-lantern pumpkin you've grown? Do you know? So the largest one was a couple of seasons ago. And I believe, I mean, this was just kind of like grabbing and just, you know, 12:22 doing the two arm lift and, you know, guesstimating, but it was probably right about in the range of about 85 pounds, 90 pounds, somewhere around in there. So we were talking about three feet round. It was a really big pumpkin. It was one of those, mean, I've had people tell me that if I would have continued onward, you know, the potential, oh, you could start doing like those giant competition pumpkins and all that. 12:51 That's always intrigued me. We haven't gone there yet.  But it was for a jack-o-lantern. It was big.  was like everybody's like, where did that one come from?  That's a lot of freaking pumpkin seeds to roast.  Oh my gosh.  Yeah.  And that pumpkin was more than twice the size of my dog. My dog weighs 40 pounds. Yeah. Yeah. No, was a lot to lift. it actually took two of us. put 13:19 you know, some lifting straps on each side and we kind of team lifted it up and carefully delayed it into the bucket of our loader tractor and got it out of the patch. But yeah, that was our that was that was the king so far.  Absolutely.  So how has your growing season been in 2026? This year has been really well.  Kind of one of the things that's attributed to a very good growing season is last winter we experienced 13:49 some significant flooding through our fields and everything from the Skagit River that kind of runs through the valley out here where we live.  And anytime you get a big flood, you get big nutrient boost in your soil.  it's been just, you know, the earthworm activity and everything going along in our soil this year has been just phenomenal. And so, yeah, we're going to have a really, really good year.  Fabulous. So how long is your 14:17 I don't know, let's call it a selling season. When do you open to start selling pumpkins and when do you close? Oh, so we open up right at like say the last weekend of September.  So we're usually about four to five weeks is a season. So we open up the last weekend of September and then we run the entirety of October and then. 14:42 after like say the beginning of November, that's generally when people come in and they start buying feeder pumpkins. So you might have like one more week following into the first week in November, you're selling off the feeders and then you're done for the year.  It's like on for 27.  So.  Nice. Okay. Yeah. And how much, you don't have to tell me exactly if you don't want to, but how much land are you growing on? So we utilize our five acres and then we 15:12 lease the neighboring five acres as well. You know, with running a pumpkin patch and kind of just, you know, keep, you know, our insurance and all the, the kind of the behind the scenes logistics in line, we use probably about three acres of our property as like a staging area. 15:36 for the pumpkin. So we grow the pumpkins on our neighboring property and then we bring them into our property on our farm where we can like set them out and people can go and grab their pumpkins and then have fun and all that on the kind of the petting zoo kind of theme that we have and everything else.  So to answer your question, we farm a total of 10 acres.  Okay, cool.  And do you have other things besides just the pumpkins to draw people in? 16:06 We do.  One of the things,  this kind of, know, everything kind of is like a chain of events to bring us to this part of where our trajectory has kind of brought us with our little farm here.  To go back here a little bit in time when we first moved onto our farm,  you know, the county around here, you know,  we encouraged, you know, small plots of land to use them in agriculture.  And so... 16:33 Originally we had you know, just a small head of beef cows that we were grazing on the property and when the flooding threat was starting to kind of show its face we were like, okay, we need to you know, reevaluate what we're doing here and not have livestock here and I said to my wife and in just kind of a humorous remark I go, you know, I'd rather see pumpkins floating away than ever seen an animal because that would be terrible. Oh, yes. And so 17:01 That's how the pumpkin patch started was we had a flood a couple years ago and there was a little section of land that I was like, you know, ought to try it here and away it went, but kind of circling back around.  Um,  we've in the, you know, got kind of a small little like a, create like composted arbor chips that come in because we used to use those with livestock. And then we also put up hay, which again, 17:27 We do have a few little farm animals here, so I put up my own hay just to kind of offset the cost and make feed.  everybody around, there's a lot of land in our valley here that is kind of like offline from major farming because it's too small for big farms to use. And so I get a lot of invites, especially haymaking. like, hey, I've got a couple acres here, a couple acres there. so like this summer alone. 17:54 We put up over a thousand bales of hay and sold and then we still have enough for our own. So we have these little kind of pockets that kind of come in a passive income that kind of support the hobby in a sense. If that makes sense.  That's the way to do it, sir. Perfect.  Anything a farmer, rancher or homesteader can do to supplement the income is all right by me.  I completely agree. And you have to. 18:24 in this day and age you can't just do one thing.  That's exactly right.  you know one of the um I guess one of the passions you could say that has really been instilled in me is you know if you kind of go back in time you know if go back as far as like the 1950s for instance farming community used to be you know you'd go out there and you'd help your neighbor. I mean you know you there was there was this very tight kind of like you know 18:54 Bond within the community itself and you know, it's not gone but it's just not quite as polished up as it used to be and One of the I guess for myself I I get a lot of just joy out of it It's like for instance when selling hay is most of my clients that I sell hay to They're small operations. Like I just took up, you know a delivery here this week to this elderly lady who is a third generation 19:24 homesteading family and they've got like about 15 sheep and she's like, oh, I'm so grateful that you can come in and bring us a load of hay and stack it. You she goes the bigger farms won't come to us because we're too little. And it's kind like, I always like to tell people like, hey, I'm small and you're small. Let's stick together. You know, that's kind of my MO.  Yes. And that is, that is honorable.  And my parents live in Maine and they live on 14 acres and okay. 19:53 They wouldn't call themselves homesteaders or farmers or anything, but they have a big field in front of their house,  like a sloping hill.  And there's a guy that comes in and haze it every, I don't know, every couple of months in the summer. And my parents don't charge him. And what they end up doing is if he has venison or beef, when fall comes, he will bring them some butchered venison and or beef. 20:22 Yeah, and barter is a fantastic thing in this time frame.  Yes. Yes. All right. Let's get back to your pumpkins.  What varieties do you grow? Do you grow the white ones by Enchant?  Yes. So yeah, we they're on the seed package. They call them the Cinderella's. So we grow the Cinderella's.  best seller, which we mainly focus on, are just the traditional carvers. 20:51 We, mean, if you're going to put it in a percentage, I mean, we probably have 90 % is in carvers and about 7 % we do Cinderella's because again, a lot of people like those for around here anyway, or flower arrangements. Yes. Very popular with like, you know, like, you know, fresh grown dahlias and stuff, know, they, people just love them for that. And then sugar pumpkins, we have quite a calling for those for baking. 21:19 And another one we've done in the past and this year as well, are the little tiny Jack B Littles. You know what I'm talking about where they're just cute little pocket size miniature pumpkins.  We've raised quite a few of those and majority of those, my wife's a school teacher, so they'll go to her classroom.  She gives them off to her students.  We call those baby pumpkins around here. Oh, okay. Yep. Yep. So. 21:47 Yeah, those are always a hit.  Yeah, um, the Cinderella pumpkins. I swear I bought one probably 10, 15 years ago and it was on the smaller side and we ended up cutting it up and eating it in a pie. Really? Yeah. And it was really good. I bet it would be because it got such a dark color to their, you know, I don't know if you want to call it meat or whatever, you know, the inside is gorge. 22:14 Flesh yes, yes, yes, but it's it's it is it's a very dark. They have a lot of sugar content to it I don't remember it's been so long Since we did it. Yeah, but it doesn't really matter with pumpkin because you can always add sugar to a pumpkin pie. Absolutely 22:36 Um, we grow, we grow butternut, buttercup and acorn squash. And the last time we had a really good crop, which was a while ago, probably six years ago, seven years ago,  they were so sweet that I didn't even have to add sugar to the pies or the pumpkin breads that I made with that squash. Nice, nice. This year, that's not the case. So far, they're not sweet. They're just squash.  Yeah,  they're just doing their thing this time. 23:06 Yeah, but we're due for a frost here in two weeks according to the old wives tale that when you hear the first locust sing, it's six weeks till your first frost.  Oh, okay. Okay. So supposedly two and a half weeks from now,  according to my ears,  we should have our first frost. Now it depends on whether that's a light frost or heavy frost.  I believe it because every time 23:34 Every year I listen close starting at the end of July because it can frost at the end of August here in Minnesota.  No kidding. Yeah. And I did know that.  Yeah. I listen real close because it gives me a gauge on when all the garden stuff is going to go.  Yep.  So.  Well, it's like out here in the Pacific Northwest. mean, we honestly don't really experience any sort of frost activities. 24:04 almost as late as like November.  Like it's such a warm kind of just, you know, our four seasons are almost kind of more like one season in a sense. But to kind of backtrack on that statement, I mean, it's like right now our trees are just beginning to change color right now. Like some of the early autumn signs are definitely starting to show that summer is wrapping up.  So.  Yes, I haven't seen. 24:33 I usually have a pretty good gauge on my prediction for whether we're going to have an early fall or a long extended fall,  early winter,  rough winter, easy winter, whatever. I've been pretty good at it for many years.  And last year I had no idea.  None of the signs that I usually rely on were around. Yeah.  And it is literally the very end of August right now and I have not seen a goose fly over. 25:01 flying north have not seen anything, haven't heard any geese. We have one maple tree that's starting to turn, but that started a month ago because we had such hot temperatures and then we had a ton of rain.  I don't have any sense this year of what the next eight months are going to be.  Yeah, I totally understand. Yeah, I kind of assume out here where we're at, we're going to be probably experiencing more of kind of a dry, you know, 25:32 Like last fall it was it got wet and it cooled down extremely early this pattern what you kind of look at you know if you're you following like your extended forecast and everything it looks like to be more of a dry and just you know we call them like Indian summers out here is one of the the traditional names for it and I kind of feel that's what we're gonna have this year but you honestly never know.  You know try to predict the weather is you know one of those things that just not my forte. 26:01 Well, I feel like nature is kind of screwy right now. We had woolly worm caterpillars showing up in the spring this year. No kidding. Yeah, my husband came and he was like, I've seen five woolly worms today. And this was back in April. What was the weather like then? Was it warm? It was warm-ish. Okay, okay, that's interesting. And I said, I said, what? And he said, yeah, I've seen five woolly worms today. 26:30 I said, are they all one color? And he said, no. He said, they look just like the ones you see in the fall.  Interesting. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, mother nature, what are you doing?  Exactly.  So I'm, I'm really kind of concerned that we're going to lose our, our old wives tale or folk tale indicators of how to gauge weather. I agree. Yeah. 26:56 It's kind of like how it is the minute you think you got it figured out it'll throw a curveball just to put you back on your Humbleville I guess but yeah, it's I agree And the thing you were saying about the flooding that made this season growing pumpkins so great My mom's dad used to call the last couple of snows in the winter used to call it poor man's fertilizer I have heard that did he actually plow like plow it in I've seen 27:26 I don't know. I have no idea. But it's the same theory that you're getting more minerals and I guess the stuff in the earth moving with the wet ground.  Yep, I have heard that.  I have a friend of mine who grew up out in Iowa and he said that there was always this belief that there was nitrogen 27:51 that was atmospheric and when it would come down early like that and you could capture it and put it into the soil, it wouldn't like evaporate that you could actually lock it in.  it's fascinating.  All that stuff is so fascinating.  really is. And people are like, farmers are dumb. And I'm like, farmers are some of the smartest freaking people you will ever meet. You might want to check yourself.  Yup. They'd learn to adapt.  That's the biggest like talent.  Yes. And even if farmers were dumb, 28:21 which they're not farmers feed us. They're some of the most important people we know.  And I will die on that freaking Hill.  We are surrounded by corn field, not cornfield, soybean fields this year at my place. And I kid you not, these soybean plants are as tall as my hip and I'm five foot nine. Oh wow. They look beautiful. My whole, my whole property. 28:49 is surrounded on three sides. We're like in the middle of it. And it's so beautiful. The dark green on these plants is just gorgeous this year.  Oh, that's great. That's great. When do they harvest? When they're dried out. So probably not until October. Oh, OK. OK. So little more time. Yeah. It's going to take a bit this year because we've had we've had really good sunshiny days and then really good rain. 29:17 So I suspect it's going to be end of October before they decide to get in there and take anything out. Gotcha. Gotcha. And is that also with the first? I'm sorry to interrupt.  No, go ahead.  Oh, is that also with like when the first frost comes through, is that kind of promote the dry out of the beanstalk in the first place and then they can go and start thrashing? I think so. OK. And we have a huge cornfield on the fourth side across the street from us. 29:47 Okay. And my God, that corn, again, I'm five foot nine. That corn dwarfs me. Oh, wow.  Yeah, that's a good stand. Yeah. And I think I don't know if it's field corn they're going to use to feed animals or if it's corn that goes to like ethanol or whatever that is. The fuel. Oh, yeah.  Yeah. But it's been such a lovely green. 30:17 fun growing season.  I say fun because the last two growing seasons here in our southwest area of Minnesota has been rough because we had a ton of rain.  And rain is not good for tomatoes or cucumbers. It will blight your plants and that's how grow.  And so we've been picking, my husband's been picking 10 pound flats of tomatoes for the last three weeks and people are just like, yes, sign me up. I want to buy them. 30:45 Oh, perfect.  So we're tomato and cucumber focused here.  Yes. Yes. Well, that's a good you're having a good season. Now, do you have like a farm stand that you sell them from?  We do. Nice. Nice. We do. We bought a they call it a garden shed, but it looks like a little barn. It's barn red with the white crosshatch, you the ax on the door to get in. It looks like a little bitty barn. It's very cute. 31:14 And we just put tables in there and a big old bulletin board or whiteboard and we just write down the names of what's in there and the prices.  And people show up at least once a day to get eggs and produce and candles and homemade soaps and homemade lip balms. And it's just, it's a really fun way to help the community.  Yes. You know, and that's like going back to like with our pumpkin patch. That's one of the ways that we've conducted our sales in the first place is 31:43 We have the mini farm that we open up like Friday through Sunday, but during the week we have a,  it's kind of just almost like the entry to our pumpkin patch. We have that kind of in an area where you can come in and then you got to go through the gate to go into the farm itself. But we allow people to come in during the week and do kind of a farm stand with the pumpkins.  And, you know, I mean, it's, very simple. We have a cash box and a Venmo QR and 32:13 You know, I've had folks before questions go, aren't you worried about somebody stealing from you? Which is always a big topic. But my honest feeling is it's like, you know, somebody's hard up and they need to steal a pumpkin. They might as well take two of them because they need them worse than I need them. You know, it's like, I'm not concerned. Like it always seems offset. Somebody is more generous than they should be in the first place. So if somebody was to be, you know, having to take one in the end, it balances out and it works great. You know, 32:42 Yes, that's our take too.  And we've had our farm stand open for at least three summers in a row, maybe four now. And we have, as far as we know, never had anyone steal. Yeah, yeah. Which is great.  I mean, I honestly don't know. I'm assuming not. Looking at the numbers and how, you know, what is there and what we earn, it looks like everybody has always been just generous and we've had no problems. 33:11 And I've encouraged many people kind of through our community that are up and starting. I'm like, just put yourself out there. Just do it. you know, sometimes the reckless move can be the most rewarding when it comes to like doing kind of like curbside that, know, you don't have to overmanage it yet. You know, just get it out there, get it set up and let it do its thing.  And, you know, one of my friends, she's been doing a Dahlia farm for a while now. She's starting to do that. And she said the same thing. She was, I got stolen one time and then. 33:40 After that she goes, it's amazing. She goes, people, the ones that keep coming back, they know which colors are coming out on what days.  you'll have this kind of phantom group of purchasers.  You may or not ever meet them, but they know what you're doing and they love what you're doing and they come back.  It's just a great thing.  You end up with fans and that sounds really weird.  do. you do. You end up with people who want to support you in what you do.  Exactly. 34:10 It's fabulous. I love it. I think it's great.  So I'm really glad that I got a chance to talk to you with you today, Hayden, because you're getting to be fall and it's pumpkin season and it's pumpkin spice season. Yeah. And it's candle season here soon. I'm I love fall. So I was like, hey, he's got a pumpkin patch. I need to talk to him.  Yes, absolutely.  And if it's OK,  one of the things I would just ask the listeners to is follow us at Blackwood Farm. 34:39 We're on Facebook and we also have TikTok and Instagram and all that, but it's kind of a family.  My oldest son, does a lot of our kind of he's the behind the scenes and the tech guy and does all the editing and we have a good time with it though. You some of the videos we've put out in the fall and whatnot have been pretty fun where, you know, last year we were going around and kind of trying to help showcase and support other small neighboring little farm operations.  And I'm big on building community. 35:08 I mean, that's probably one of the biggest drives that I have over all of this is like, you know, I don't want to see farming kind of fade out as a thing of the past. I think that there's still a solid pulse out there. It's just a matter of, you know, it's evolving from in a sense where people used to rely on it as full income to now it's more people have a full time job and then they do kind of like with us. This is a hobby, but 35:38 It's a hobby that builds a lot of friendships, a lot of fans, as you put it. And it's been just a heck of a ride so far.  Good. I'm glad that it's been a great experience for you. I'm going to say it again. If you want to find Blackwood Farm, can find them on Facebook, literally at Blackwood Farm.  Yes. Yes. And on TikTok and Instagram as well. Yeah. I'm waiting for you to put a website up, buddy. 36:05 You know, it's in the works. Good. Yeah, we need to do that. That's one of our on the tour list per se. So yeah, we really need to do that. Good.  All right. As always, people can find me at Atonyhomestead.com. Hayden, again, thank you for taking time out of your day. I know it was a little bit early because you're in Washington and I'm in Minnesota and it's a two hour time difference. So thank you so much. Of course. It was a pleasure. Thank you. Have a great day. You too.