May 12, 2026 · 41 min · 16 segments
Nonprofit burnout is real and nonprofit leaders are carrying more than ever before. In this episode, Tosha Anderson sits down with productivity coach and Winning the Week co-author Demir Bentley to…
I'm not surprised to hear that, only because I'm typically on the reactive receiving end of that burnout and turnover, right? In our, my primary job when I'm not on, um, this podcast, which is kind of a creative passion project of mine.
But, um, we are, um, a fractional outsourced accounting firm, and so we get the calls when, "Hey, you know, um, my finance director left very abruptly." So I kinda study the, the labor patterns of the nonprofit industry.
Um, and I've come across, um, statistics even recently that says that the nonprofit industry has the highest turnover than any oth- other sector of the labor market, and that's especially true and relevant in the administrative or leadership components of the nonprofit as well.
Um, so I he- I see those statistics and I read them and I just pay attention 'cause I'm just kinda curious and interested about it.
But then I also see that overwhelm that you were hinting at firsthand with the nonprofit ex- executives that I work with.
Just always seeing the sense that I don't wanna put people in, like, two different buckets, but it's like the just always behind, really hard to pin down, pulled in a million different direction kind of personality, or I am so tight and so rigid and so, like, militant about the things that I'm doing that it's almost kinda hard to work with those folks, too.
Because it's like, maybe I'm caught up, but I have to fight like crazy to stay caught up, and I have to run, um, maybe an operation or run myself in a way that I don't take a day off.
I don't have a work/life balance, and everything is just so, um, intense and urgent and, and just, I don't know, just to kinda keep things going in that way.
So I, I've seen that a lot with nonprofit leaders, and either way is not sustainable, which I think, to your point-
I'm not surprised to hear that, only because I'm typically on the reactive receiving end of that burnout and turnover, right? In our, my primary job when I'm not on, um, this podcast, which is kind of a creative passion project of mine.
But, um, we are, um, a fractional outsourced accounting firm, and so we get the calls when, "Hey, you know, um, my finance director left very abruptly." So I kinda study the, the labor patterns of the nonprofit industry.
Um, and I've come across, um, statistics even recently that says that the nonprofit industry has the highest turnover than any oth- other sector of the labor market, and that's especially true and relevant in the administrative or leadership components of the nonprofit as well.
Um, so I he- I see those statistics and I read them and I just pay attention 'cause I'm just kinda curious and interested about it.
But then I also see that overwhelm that you were hinting at firsthand with the nonprofit ex- executives that I work with.
Just always seeing the sense that I don't wanna put people in, like, two different buckets, but it's like the just always behind, really hard to pin down, pulled in a million different direction kind of personality, or I am so tight and so rigid and so, like, militant about the things that I'm doing that it's almost kinda hard to work with those folks, too.
Because it's like, maybe I'm caught up, but I have to fight like crazy to stay caught up, and I have to run, um, maybe an operation or run myself in a way that I don't take a day off.
I don't have a work/life balance, and everything is just so, um, intense and urgent and, and just, I don't know, just to kinda keep things going in that way.
So I, I've seen that a lot with nonprofit leaders, and either way is not sustainable, which I think, to your point-
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