Sep 9, 2026 · 41 min · 12 segments
Cop Talk takes a powerful look back with retired NYPD Lieutenants Richard Clifford and Tony Giorgio, who share their firsthand experiences of September 11, 2001 and the days that followed. They…
Tony GiorgioGuest
Richard CliffordGuest
Dave GiordanoHost
Kevin SchroederHost
Rory KappaHost
Well, just by way of background for listeners that may not know, because we have a lot of new listeners, too.

The World Trade Center was really, everybody thinks of it as the iconic two towers, but it was actually a series of complexes, seven buildings.

And the day that the towers were struck, ultimately with the two towers and it came down, it took out the entire complex.

Jerry Howard had a couple of years earlier convinced that the mayor, we should have an OEM.

In fact, it was a ballot on one of the elections to make it another city agency and have a charter.

Well, just by way of background for listeners that may not know, because we have a lot of new listeners, too.

The World Trade Center was really, everybody thinks of it as the iconic two towers, but it was actually a series of complexes, seven buildings.

And the day that the towers were struck, ultimately with the two towers and it came down, it took out the entire complex.

Jerry Howard had a couple of years earlier convinced that the mayor, we should have an OEM.

In fact, it was a ballot on one of the elections to make it another city agency and have a charter.
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