2D Is Against My Religion with Michal Gula
Sep 4, 2026 · 55 min · 13 segments
NavVis CLX is a compact handheld SLAM laser scanner built for LOD200 reality capture, everyday site documentation, scan-to-BIM/CAD, quantity surveying and area referencing. Michael Schoelkopf…
Michael SchoelkopfGuest
Michal GulaHost
would like to start with a quote from your CTO, because I read it somewhere that with this CLX, you are trying to, to bridge or to close the gap.

So I was just asking myself, like, what gap guys, like, you already have VLX, you have MLX, you are basically claiming that you can do any job with those two.

So, yes, we can do a lot of jobs with our previous portfolio with MLAX and VLAX.

But the gap we want to close is that there is, in our opinion, a place for a device that is meant for those low margin shops where MLX or VLX data quality is basically overkill.

And we addressed it already with echo processing, so where we have a more affordable way to process the data.

So if you think about the MLX and the VLX, these are really like tools you use for a very specific job.

With another CLX, which by the way, of course also have with me and show you in a second more, it's more that everybody in the team should just be able to grab the CLX and map something out.

And for many of the jobs that many of our customers do, like for example error referencing or simple LOD 200 jobs, scan to BIM, scan to CAD, our devices are just a little bit overkill, so a bit too pricey maybe also.

But I think what the problem in the market is that these more affordable devices don't have the reliability.

And even if you don't need the data quality, you do need the reliability of these devices.

But it's just a reality that you capture is that not every project has, you can't price it in the market, but it's reasonable to use a VLX or MLX for this job.

So if you do, for example, we have customers who do a lot of scanning of apartment blocks.

You scan, I don't know, 50 to 100 square meters per site, so to say, per apartment.

And I was trying to be funny with that expensive remark because I think it was a few months ago when I actually helped you guys with the campaign around the calculator that you released on your website where basically anybody can just calculate and check the costs of scanning with either VLX or MLX compared to TLS scanning, right? Yeah.

would like to start with a quote from your CTO, because I read it somewhere that with this CLX, you are trying to, to bridge or to close the gap.

So I was just asking myself, like, what gap guys, like, you already have VLX, you have MLX, you are basically claiming that you can do any job with those two.

So, yes, we can do a lot of jobs with our previous portfolio with MLAX and VLAX.

But the gap we want to close is that there is, in our opinion, a place for a device that is meant for those low margin shops where MLX or VLX data quality is basically overkill.

And we addressed it already with echo processing, so where we have a more affordable way to process the data.

So if you think about the MLX and the VLX, these are really like tools you use for a very specific job.

With another CLX, which by the way, of course also have with me and show you in a second more, it's more that everybody in the team should just be able to grab the CLX and map something out.

And for many of the jobs that many of our customers do, like for example error referencing or simple LOD 200 jobs, scan to BIM, scan to CAD, our devices are just a little bit overkill, so a bit too pricey maybe also.

But I think what the problem in the market is that these more affordable devices don't have the reliability.

And even if you don't need the data quality, you do need the reliability of these devices.

But it's just a reality that you capture is that not every project has, you can't price it in the market, but it's reasonable to use a VLX or MLX for this job.

So if you do, for example, we have customers who do a lot of scanning of apartment blocks.

You scan, I don't know, 50 to 100 square meters per site, so to say, per apartment.

And I was trying to be funny with that expensive remark because I think it was a few months ago when I actually helped you guys with the campaign around the calculator that you released on your website where basically anybody can just calculate and check the costs of scanning with either VLX or MLX compared to TLS scanning, right? Yeah.
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