Okay,

one bonus question.

Okay.

But you're close.

Go with me on this, okay? You're in a grocery store.

You've got $20.

You have to buy the most food possible.

That's how I am in all my relationships.

I see that

Zanae Eckham says periodical here.

Oh, okay.

What does that make you think of? I have an amazing story.

So I used to – it obviously makes me think of magazines.

And I did work for a guy in the 90s who had like – this is true.

He published adult – self-published porn magazines.

I think

let's go ahead and get to the big announcement, though, because I think that that

would be important.

Oh, no. That's it.

That's it.

That's the big announcement.

Look, when you're backup rhythm guitarist, the band depends on you.

You're the glue.

There are different points in this interview where I thought maybe what would Howard Schultz be talking about right now?

think the plot to Star Wars The Phantom Menace is? All right.

It's a lot about – so there's a young star pilot who's very talented.

So far on track.

Then there's a woman in a robe who's scolding somebody off camera about not doing their homework.

Okay, no, see, this is where it veers from actual reality.

It fit in well.

And then the star pilot has an evil nature, which he's trying to resist.

need a space to get away from?

What motivated you to start the show in the first place?

Well, I know I don't I don't bring this up a lot because I don't I don't think this is necessary to enjoy it.

But honestly, Donald Trump got elected president and my circle of friends is a very liberal, left leaning group.

And so there was there was much discussion over what had why Donald Trump was popular, a lot of politics talking about.

And I burnt out on it.

And I was like, I want to just talk about something that makes me happy.

And I just want to have a joyful discussion.

It sounds like the same old shit.

at

all.

JBC, listen, let's have another show where I tell you about this for hours.

Because when I was first on the show, I was so intimidated.

And excited.

It was really fun or whatever.

But, you know, there's all these great character actors.

What episode of Widow's Bay is your voice sneakily in? I'm barely in

Okay

...

in, during the summer, and I saw him there once playing just a lovely little set.

Um, and then the, then I saw him in concert a year later, after 9/11, and I talked to him after the concert.

I was like, "Oh, uh, last time I saw you was at the Twin Towers.

I mean, before 9/11." Uh, you know, not, I d- I don't ...

And then he got, like, so sad-

they regret or, or bad or haunting.

Go ahead, Henry.

Here we go.

I'm now going to...

Lulu, come here, please, and I'm gonna lay out this parchment here.

Meow.

Sorry I have some parchment.

Okay.

[laughs]

[laughs]

Yeah, yeah.

Uh, I c- I come from a long way, a- away, uh, sort of like historically, 'cause I was born on a planet far, far away.

Just now, I came from a four-minute drive from Imo's.

[laughs]

Yeah, I really, [laughs] I really felt like it was more interesting when I thought this through- Yeah, stuff's pretty interesting.

I used to work for an entity that devoured planets.

I quit that job 'cause, uh, you know, moral choice-

We didn't plan it.

Look, here's the thing.

I was too old to have really been caught up in Turtle Mania wave one.

And so I never really read any of that stuff.

So out of a curiosity, my brother and I said, hey, let's read all the original Eastman and Laird Turtles books.

And they were really delightful and great.

And then sort of watched some episodes of the original Saturday morning cartoon and the original movie.

My recommendation is going

He's acted out this scene.

Well, he started criticizing Ghostbusters.

He started with the two patch thing, and then he was sort of like, "The first one really is uneven, and it jumps around."

No, no.

And then also, uh, got, um, let's see.

Oh, how about a podcast, Screw It, we're just going to talk about the Beatles-

[laughs]

... and yawned, the audience fell asleep.

Right now in the tabernacle, everyone is nodded off.

These people are drooling.

These people have their mouths wide open.

But that's because I, the Dream Lord, can only be seen by people who are asleep.

What's going on?

Well, y- okay, part of being the dream lord is if people are, which they often are, working stuff out with their dreams, you know, you're working through some, like, psychic unfinished business, I sometimes have to help them achieve their goals, or they get stuck having the same dream, and that's boring for me.

I- that's why I'm paying you.

You gotta come with me.

Oh, this is- I need you at my side.

This is part of your business plan? Yes, I- He should just go then and do it by himself.

No, I'll handle the dirty work.

You gotta eyeball her.

He's hiring, he's hiring you 'cause he has shit to do here.

Sandwiches?

Oh.

He was really giving them the what for.

And, and I gotta be honest, the, the, the passengers seemed like they deserved it.

You can't always tell when you're just walking by an altercation, but this sort of seemed like two sort of, uh, ne'er-do-well, aggro, alpha, no good, no goods.

Really? Oh.

Yes.

And I just, it felt excessive.

Uh, and so I deli-... part of my sort of becoming a better person, when I realized I had a fear and loathing towards women, and really just everybody, um, I, and I was like, "I wanna be better.

And, and how did that help them?

Well, who knows if they're gonna keep going because they had reached a great end point of their song and if they try to morph into a jam band phase, Sugar Ray's gonna lose the audience and-

You watched, and did you participate?

I did.

I walked up in the m...

This one I walked, I got involved in this one.

I was more proactive in, in the Martin McDonough Jetsons.

I walked up in the middle of it and said, "Scene," and I was ignored, which helped.

[laughs]

Um, I, I've made some characters for Ben.

Uh, now Ben does own the rights to those characters

Exactly

... as part-

And everything you ever do

Well, I, I disagree with that part of what you assert.

You were in Arsenic and Old Lace, as I recall.