Mm-hmm.

Yeah, and that's, that's interesting.

Um, to your point, Erica, like we have seen at our firm a real rise in procurement services recently.

Um, and I think with some, some larger firms that have these projects that are spanning one to three years because, you know, and some of them are small.

They're exclusive, but they're small.

And I think to your point, and this is kind of the way your firm works in some ways, is that, you know, you're wanting to get back into design and not chasing these items for three years and doing the order tra- you know, all of those pieces of that.

And we've seen a real, which has been surprising to me because procurement is very much for us like-

Everything's changed so much.