you have to be a girlfriend within three

months.

But mind you, if you're meeting somebody off an app, that person is essentially a stranger.

So you're kind of like...

I feel like it kind of like forced you to speed things up when naturally it wouldn't take that amount of time to get to know somebody or just build something.

So a lot of...

I feel like that kind of rule kind of traps people.

And then it's like that thing of like, yeah, like why not?

Yeah.

Which I think kind of puts you, I think once you, once you say the Traitors, they're kind of, like, s- scared to kill you.

So, like, I think my strategy mostly was just kind of, like, flying under the radar and collecting my evidence before coming-

[laughs]

And then I was l- I thought, I sat on it for a bit 'cause I was like, "Hmm, I don't know.

SEO-wise, I don't know, da da da da." And then I was like, you know what? I actually do, like, resonate with it because, like, half of it is Nigerian, and half of it is Irish.

Patreons, all the other things that come with podcasts?

Yeah, definitely would love to see all of that down the line, but, like, I was, I think this is, like, a side quest to me, and side quests always kind of have the best outcome, 'cause you never know what the heck is gonna happen.

Sure.

So, like, even though we would love all of that to happen, but we're taking it day by day.

We're still learning about, well, f- I'm still learning a lot about podcasts.

Vanessa's very, um-