So speaking of Gal Pal Collective, tell us, what is it? How did it start?

We started in 2019? No, 2020.

Was it 2020? Oh, it was 2020 because it was during COVID, yeah.

But I think me and Ashley were 19 at the time.

And I don't know, we went to like a filmmaking group together.

And like, no one wanted to make the films that I was writing other than Ashley.

Oh my gosh.

So like particularly for people of color, people from immigrant backgrounds, are there things that you're becoming more aware of that are happening