No.

No, everyone hates it.

It's bad for every single person, and so it's like, oh, if...

I have a brilliant idea.

What if we just gave men their own colleges, and men just went to that...

Or gave men their own boarding schools and raised them up, you know, uh, isolated from women, without the distraction, without the temptation, and just actually had them focus on it.

Wait, we had that, actually.

Uh, close quarters, but without clothing, and then saying, "Good luck, buddy."

You think that's that, could that be a contributing factor that because they just didn't, there was no flight, there was no hunger from the start.

I think that's very fair to point out.

I just didn't think it was a competitive camp in terms of jostling for jobs.

I think the Flyers very much had their makeup of their lineup already sketched probably in pencil and almost pen.

there is something to a longer training camp where guys are literally fighting for jobs and there's serious competition.

So maybe that started some complacency a little bit.

I also just think, and they won't admit it, but the shortened off season that they had and the shortened camp, I just don't think they were used to it.

Or does that solve your issue now with Sanheim and him? So, Jordan, would you make that move? Yeah,

Save big money at Menards.

I, I, I think a lot of it's just there's n- there's not a lot of motion, there's not a lot of movement, it's predictable.

Uh, they even have issues with entries.

Uh, they're trying to stick with units to build some type of chemistry, but I just don't think there's a ton of guys with pedigree on this, on the units.

Like, th- I think there's hope that Trevor Zegras is a power play guy.

There's hope that Matt Bemiszkov eventually becomes a big answer.

There's hope that maybe they have a power play quarterback in Jamie Drysdale, but these guys have not really done it at a high level yet.

But what, what about the back end in Philly? What, what do you make of their back end? Which is, uh, it's had a lot of changes the last three years.

So when you watch it, why does their PP continue to suck?

I, I, I think a lot of it's just there's n- there's not a lot of motion, there's not a lot of movement, it's predictable.

Uh, they even have issues with entries.

Uh, they're trying to stick with units to build some type of chemistry, but I just don't think there's a ton of guys with pedigree on this, on the units.

Like, th- I think there's hope that Trevor Zegras is a power play guy.

There's hope that Matveichkov eventually becomes a big answer.

There's hope that maybe they have a power play quarterback in Jimmy Drysdale, but these guys have not really done it at a high level yet.

But what, what about the back end in Philly? What, what do you make of their back end, which is, uh, it's had a lot of changes the last three years?

What did that do to you guys defensively? Was it tough to rebound from that when it's just a physical nine minute, almost ten minute deal?

Yeah, I mean, it's tough being on the field for that many plays because defensively we gotta find a way to get off the field and get the ball back to our offense.

But yeah, it's definitely tiring.

But, you know, we have tough practices that are kind of built for that.

Did they score at the end of their drive? They got three.

Three points.

So, I mean, you'd love to keep, you know, three points off the board, but a 17-play drive, I know a lot of teams that would give up six there.

What did you learn tonight?

That's not what Paul says.

Right.

You, you're demanding the same rights as men? You want it? Well, you can have it.

Mm-hmm.

[chuckles]

Yeah, yeah.

No, it's, uh, you know, it's a different beast out there, you know.

That's why you don't see a lot of true freshmen playing because, you know, they don't have that in-game experience, uh, of, you know, being in the fog of war.

Um, and so, you know, it, it eases my tension, I guess, of knowing that I have some guys out there that I can trust, uh, in Wheat and Deion who have had game experience, but not to, you know, shadow guys like Brady and Demari and Cam.

Um, you know, you know, he's coming from a little bit of a smaller school in Albany.

Um, but guys who maybe haven't had a ton of playing time, I have the utmost trust in, in the group of linebackers that we have and, and trust, you know, when I'm on the field with whoever it is, that, that they'll do their job and motivate me to do mine.

How did he do that? Do you know any specific story you could share with us?

... realize that my compass is a bit broken and, and, you know, go right back.

Absolutely.

I mean, a, a simple, uh, recognition is that, um, if your, if your, if your will is quite focused, then your ability to pay attention is somewhat closed, and there's maybe a direct relationship.

The more you are focused, right, you just think focus, means the less diffuse awareness you have.

There may be a lot going on, and yet you're not aware of it, and, and your will focuses.

That's what the whole point is.

Focusing your energy and attention on the, the purpose that you've identified and making that purpose more and more real w- at the cost of less ability to be able to perceive both, let's say, more globally and also more subtly.

How, how, how did that step look? What, what made you start thinking that Christianity might offer some solutions?

Right

... "and be indwelled by the power of God, the Holy Spirit." No, he's not talking about the doctrine of, of regeneration.

And, and Peter says, "Those of you who suffer, suffer as a Christian." He's talk...

Again, the context is people on the outside are persecuting you because they are recognizing that you are a Christian.

And this came up with me personally in my defense of Carrie Prejean Boller, because Eric Metaxas and the Judeo-Christians were flaying her alive because she dared ask the Religious Liberty Commission, "Hey, what's anti-Semitism?" And of course, you're not allowed to ask that question because the definition has to be fluid so that they can use that as a weapon against anyone at any time.

And so coming up with a definition is gonna be like trying to nail Jell-O to the wall.

It has to be to be effective.

Mm.

share that level of faith and how many come to you and maybe they have questions they're troubled in that way how do you help them

Yeah, well, first to start off with people pouring into me.

We have a great kind of chapel for the team, Phil Gillespie, who's been around for 20 plus years, pouring into me and encouraging me to dive into my faith.

And I would say, you know, the temperature of the team is there's a lot of guys that are curious.

You know, we host Bible studies every Wednesday and the discussions and the questions that come up from those.

It encourages me to want to continue to go and pour into those guys.

Um, but it's something that, you know, I take with humility because I remember being, you know, my freshman and sophomore year going to those things and not having a relationship with Christ.

How do you win those games and take them from good showings to victories?

Jordan, how many of your teammates share that level of faith and how many come to you and maybe they have questions or troubles in that way? How do you help them?

Yeah, well, first to start off with people pouring into me.

We have a great kind of chapel for the team, Phil Gillespie, who's been around for 20 plus years, pouring into me and encouraging me to dive into my faith.

And I would say, you know, the temperature of the team is there's a lot of guys that are curious.

You know, we host Bible studies every Wednesday and the discussions and the questions that come up from those.

It encourages me to want to continue to go and pour into those guys.

But it's something that, you know, I take with humility because I remember being, you know, my freshman and sophomore year going to those things and not having a relationship with Christ.

How do you win those games and take them from good showings to victories?

Correct

... long before he died.

And that's my question, is where were you guys, you know, in these issues? I mean, w- back to Doug Wilson.

I complained.

Where were you? You were criticizing me for complaining about this.

I was well aware of what TPUSA was doing.

W- I mean, it's not as though, you know, you could have only started complaining roundabout the time that you started complaining about, you know, the NXR conference.

Hmm.

Certainly, if

you're a copywriter of mediocre marketing copy, you should look for something else.

That's just not going to exist.

It's a thing anymore.

By contrast, as I mentioned, electrician, good job for sure for the next five years, maybe seven.

Now, here's the problem.

Supply and demand.

but also other people's assessments.

Do you feel they're better? You know, are they the same? Kinda, how would you evaluate the Flyers? Are they expecting most of their improvement to come internally?

They're definitely expecting their improvement to come internally.

Leo Karlsson was by far their big swing.

Uh, they went for it.

They were hopeful.

Uh, I think they put the Ducks in a really tough spot where they had to make Leo Karlsson the highest-paid player in the league.

But I think the, the overarching, I think, positive and the overarching point of that was, I think, to show the league and their fans that they're ready, that they feel like they're ready to try to attract a talent like that.

He's fast as lightning." Like, why is his name out there?

What was the message he's trying to, to send, uh, for around the National Hockey League? And is he trying to send it to other general managers or to the fan base in Philly?

I think it's the GMs.

I also think it's the players.

I think it's the players around the league that, yeah, the Flyers are a big player right now, that they're ready to spend money, and hey, come next off-season when you're a free agent, we're, we're willing to give out some dollars.

I think that's really what they're hoping.

Uh, they-- Danny Briere and Keith Jones, the president of hockey ops here, they've really wanted to make the Flyers a destination again, and they've worked hard at it.

It's taken some time.

How interesting could it be to see them work maybe this, the, the rest of this summer and of course into the season ahead of the trade deadline, and then into free agency next year?

When you look at this roster, do you believe this is a, like, a postseason team again? Shouldn't our expectation, even if he tries to temper it, shouldn't the expectation be set where the bar was set by the end of last season?

Absolutely.

Like, I still think they can make the playoffs again.

I think they can do that for the first time in a while, back-to-back playoff berths.

I think they have the right ingredients, and I think a couple things people aren't really factoring in, to me, you're gonna get Porter Martone for a full season.

You got him for, like, nine or 10 games [laughs] in the regular season and a playoff run.

I'm imagining him now in the lineup for a full season.

Jordan, how about grading the off-season thus far? Give us some pros and cons of what's been going on.

And now that you've had a few days to look at it, and then also look at the, uh, the after effects of if they get him, what would it mean for the rest of the roster? What, what do you think about this, uh, this decision by the Flyers?

I think it's a bold one.

Um, it definitely surprised me.

I didn't think ...

There was a little bit of buzz about Leo Carlsson and an offer sheet, but I, I didn't think they would make him the highest-paid player in the league.

But I do think that's the overall gist of a, of an offer sheet, is that you have to overpay.

You have to almost grossly overpay to, to make that other team blink and, and feel like it's not right to match.

And if we don't, then we'll go this, this other pattern." But I'm guessing the Claude Giroux signing won't happen until the Carlson decision?

And now that you've had a few days to look at it, and then also look at the, uh, the aftereffects of if they get him, what would it mean for the rest of the roster? What, what do you think about this, uh, this decision by the Flyers?

I think it's a bold one.

Um, it definitely surprised me.

I didn't think...

There was a little bit of buzz about Leo Carlsson and an offer sheet, but I, I didn't think they would make him the highest paid player in the league.

But I do think that's the overall gist of a, of an offer sheet, is that you have to overpay.

You have to almost grossly overpay to, to make that other team blink and, and feel like it's not right to match.

Um, what about the, uh, Claude Giroux? There's lots of rumors that Claude Giroux might be, uh, returning to Philadelphia and, you know, that, that could be a part where, you know, the Flyers, as they wait to see what the Ducks' decision is, the Flyers probably have to have a, "Okay, if we get Leo Carlsson, here are some decisions we're gonna have to make, and if we don't, then we'll go this, this other pattern." But I'm guessing the Claude Giroux signing won't happen until the Carlsson decision?

You hearing anything? You think that's a realistic possibility that they can go get McTavish?

I wouldn't rule it out.

I haven't heard anything on that front.

But they've been rumored about him for a little while.

The Ducks have so many younger players that they need to re-sign, and you can only sign so many.

So McTavish has always been a guy that's kind of been floated out there for the Flyers.

I'm not sure it's going to happen, though.

So we don't have time for you to go through all 16, but give us like one or two that would be your top choice if they're still on the clock, or excuse me, if they're available when the Flyers are on the clock at 21.

Yes.

Wow.

So just being able to factor in all the accessibility needs that need to be encompassed in the profile, but in such a sustained way was very important.

I also, I'm a nerd, so the on-time performance thing for me makes sense.

such a substantial difference, especially when you're talking about the disability community.

One of the things that transit is most often used for that I think a lot of people forget is employment.

People with disabilities want to work and want to be contributing members of society.

Jordan, what, what would you say to encourage someone who thinks that they might be a good candidate to use this? What, how would you encourage them to sort of jump in and go for it?

Is that is that a fair understanding? of what you're saying i think that's that's definitely okay

so you've got kind of two well i'm going to reframe again just to get a bunch of different ways of looking at it the the normativity is something like the um the total set of orienting constraints in choice space um i mean total set so it would include both what is the proper orientation what is the proper disposition um when you you can think of like very very normally something like uh If I hear a loud sound off to my right, there is an intrinsic normativity that descends upon my choice landscape that orients me to turn and look in the rightward direction.

You can make it very concrete and simple and then expand it out.

Where am I? What's relevant? All the kinds of questions that are very much Verveke questions.

where there's a stuckness in the sense that there's a lack of an ability to grasp that there are modally distinct ways of being in relationship with these kinds of questions.

And there's a stuckness in a modal form.

And we're kind of, this is modernity.

enjoy that

So not, not a perfect ending by any stretch, but that part of the ending was really, really special for this team, and I think a great sendoff for them because they're appreciated, and the Flyers are back on the map.

I agree, Jim.

I, I think it really shows the, the intelligence of the fans because I think they understood where this team came from and, and the, the progress it made in the rebuild to win 18 of its final 25 games to get into the playoffs and then to win a round over the Penguins, and they haven't done that in a while.

So, uh, for the fans, I think they recognized the moment, that it wasn't just about being swept and-

Mm

...

this was not a ch- uh, you know, a time at all to put the team down.

I think they appreciated the progress this team made in year one under Rick Tocchet, Ashlyn.

What was the locker room like after, and what did they seem like going towards tonight?

They were a little deflated, Ricky, I think because they thought they had that game, and it's such a big difference being 1-1 and 2-0.

We all know the history, and coming back against a team like the Hurricanes is really difficult, whereas if they left that building 1-1, came home, I think they would be feeling so much better about themselves.

But really, I think the frustration was all about that they let one get away.

They were up 2-0 so early in the game.

That was the first time the Hurricanes had... trailed all playoffs.

And then they had missed opportunities in overtime.

So not that it's a huge loss because the power play hasn't done much, but who do you think fills that spot?

Yeah.

I have a...

This is an interesting way of twisting the question.

Um, this is by zooming in.

So we, you, you zoomed out, and we've, we've, we've...

Sorry, yeah, deeper context.

We're talking about the notion of something like a very big conversation that includes all the major traditions, and we've identified sort of a couple of big distinctions.

Mm-hmm.

And that's how she's described again in Revelation 21, the holy city, Jerusalem, the true, perfect, sanctified Jerusalem, and that is the church, the people of God.

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