That would be the three that immediately come to me, Father Jesse, but what do you think?

No, definitely, I'll echo that, and of course, I love the order that you put that in, right, like, so the routine of prayer, I mean, discernment unfolds best when we're deepening the life of sanctifying grace, the grace of the Holy Spirit in our soul, and prayer is our contact with the Lord, and, you know, it's in prayer that St. Thomas says that prayer is the interpreter of our desires, that our our desires get reordered towards its true end.

And so we could speak about holy desires.

And what happens is that in life, when we have a lot of noise, a lot of distractions, even sinful tendencies, obviously, we could live out of the outer area of the heart, if you wish, what classical Catholic tradition might call the flesh, rather than living in that A term that I love from a fellow Dominican, Fr.

James Brent from the Eastern Province, St. Joseph Province, he talks about the deep heart, living in that place where our will and our intellect are rightly ordered.

And prayer helps the ordering of the intellect and will, to be able to perceive the good, in this case, see more clearly through prayer, the great good of offering one's life for the salvation of souls through the priesthood, through religious life.

And so prayer, because what happens in sanctifying grace, like, you know, prayer is what is one of the means by which this grace of the Holy Spirit deepens in us.

means

That, that would be m- uh, the, the three that immediately come to me, uh, Father Jesse, but what do you think?

No, definitely.

I'll echo that and, of course, I love the order that you put that in, right? Like, so the routine of prayer.

I mean, discernment unfolds best when we're deepening the life of sanctifying grace, the grace of the Holy Spirit in our soul, and prayer is our contact with the Lord and, and, you know, it's in prayer that St. Thomas says that prayer is the interpreter of our desires, that our, our desires get reordered, uh, towards its true end.

And so we could speak about holy desires.

And, uh, what happens is that in life when we have a lot of noise, a lot of distractions, um, even sinful tendencies, obviously, um, we could live out of the outer area of the heart, if you wish, what classical Catholic tradition might call the flesh, um, rather than living, um, in that, uh...

A term that I love from a fellow Dominican, Father James Brent from the Eastern Province, St. Joseph Province, you know, he talks about the deep heart.

Mm-hmm

what does that mean to you? Why did you choose that, you know, how to be His? What does that line mean to you? And maybe connect it to some of the saints.

I think the title, I was trying to figure out what's the title of this book, and I came in prayer.

And I wanted a title that would express the intimacy that we're called to in Christianity.

We're not called just to a mere following of Jesus.

That's absolutely true.

But something far more wonderful.

And the book kind of spells that out.

As he's really there, we need to visit him.