"Instead of positioning all Sarajevans as economic victims, they criticize the ethno-economic stigmatization of Serbs."

The we is we the Serbs, and they is they the Muslims in those quotes.

But, uh, what I mean to articulate is that those quotes happened after these longer narratives where it was we the Yugoslavs.

So it would be these long narratives about the beautiful days of socialism and how it was for us in Yugoslavia and very much like a we the people kind of narrative, which is what is the typical Yugo nostalgic narrative that we hear.

And so those would be long narratives about, you know, everybody having a job and everybody going to work.

And one of the common tropes is, like, you could sleep on a bench anywhere because it was so safe.

The we in all these discussions was we, we the Yugoslavs, and then after these long talks, there would be this additional line or two that would reframe that we and suddenly say something like, "It was easier when they were just Muslims." The we and the they would suddenly shift, and so there was something different happening in these narratives.

So how important are these issues for people?

But I want to ask Yelena now in terms of, I mean, there is the whole thing about the nation state, you know, post Yugoslavia and then there is also this thing about communism you know that yeah what was maybe your experience growing up in relation to these values of community and also I guess on another level in relation to this idea of the nation-state

For me it's still interesting how it overlaps with different imageries of what we are as a collective of humans.

Not only, but how do humans imagine their group in a certain space? Because I still, up to now, well, I did go through the transition into capitalism and I can see how behaviours change, how purposes change, or ideas of what are we there for, what is this community for? But often if I look into values, what do we value, what are the ethical norms that we follow collectively, I am still confused because I wouldn't say that those, let's say, five decades, that they shaped the communitarian values after 500 years of the Ottomans.

So however, in the Ottoman Empire, however brutal the social strata, sociological strata was, for different communities.

There were still, I think, I'd rather, I cannot observe the communitarian values isolated from the Ottoman past, because my grandparents, they belonged rather to that one.

They carried from their parents, you know, they've been taught, because what we are is what, how we start shaping, I think.

Our reality, imagining it and framing it, is what our parents kind of, they give us these instructions how to think, how to analyze and how to perceive.

What about you, Ma? Do you have a word?