Uh, I mean-

No, we didn't.

Al- al- although, I, I mean, the...

Harold Wilson had by that stage already won two elections.

I don't speak for Labour MPs anymore, but the, the, the problem they faced was that they ha- had been going out on the doorstep week after week, not just in the run-up to the local elections or in certain by-elections, but for the last 18 months, and finding that it was extremely difficult to get members of the public to accept that Sir Keir Starmer was doing a thoroughly good job, which in many ways he was, but in some respects he wasn't.

And th- they were then worrying, as Labour MPs can, and I've seen it plenty of times, about their prospects at, at the forthcoming, uh, general election.

Mm

... a people pleaser.

Uh, I mean-

No, we didn't.

Al- al- although, I, I mean, the...

Harold Wilson had by that stage already won two elections.

I don't speak for Labour MPs anymore, but the, the, the problem they faced was that they ha- had been going out on the doorstep week after week, not just in the run-up to the local elections or in certain by-elections, but for the last 18 months, and finding that it was e- extremely difficult to get members of the public to accept that Sir Keir Starmer was doing a thoroughly good job.

Which in many ways he was, but in some respects he wasn't.

And th- they were then worrying, as Labour MPs can, and I've seen it plenty of times, about their prospects at, at the f- forthcoming, uh, general election.

Is a people pleaser what Britain needs right now?

Prime Minister, we made those decisions jointly.

My Prime Minister would say to the Chancellor, I understand what he's saying, but as the Prime Minister said, the nuclear deterrent has worked here and will continue to work.

Just bear this in mind.

When Ukraine broke away from what was then the USSR, became an independent state, it decided voluntarily to give up what was a very large arsenal of nuclear weapons and capabilities.

If, however, Ukraine had decided to retain that capability, I doubt very much whether Putin... who have engaged in the adventure that he has done for

And coming out of this looking reasonable and ethical, I think, is important.

And I think

All we get from defence is it's coming your way and then they do the rest.

Prime Minister, what is the rest here? Because in the absence of any kind of civil defence organisation these days, are we advising people to stay at home and be a sitting duck?

The Foreign Secretary.

Secretariously, we would have the cards if the US maintained its historic role as a key ally of the UK, as we have yourselves, from the Second World War and continuing.

asset.

Because I think it will put us on the back foot in a way that diplomatically we're not at the moment.

We have the option of doing this.

as it were, down the line.

And to come to the point that CDS and the defense secretary and the NSA advisor have also made, there's a question of what do we do next? And so we attack this Russian asset.

We sink a Russian boat.

They're not going to sit on that.

and we cannot state that strongly

And you've

got to persuade the Americans that given the inadequacy of our conventional capabilities... including our inability to stop ballistic missiles and so on, we may have to resort to the nuclear option.

And whether he likes it or not, if we do that, then that will involve the

We understand that RAF jets are still airborne in case of further strikes.

Do we have any indication of UK casualties, military and civilian? We do.

After myself as Prime Minister, which is an interesting choice, I'm going to look forward to it, I've got Jack Straw.

Jack Straw, Home Secretary between 1997 and 2001, Foreign Secretary between 2001 and 2006, and Justice Secretary between 2007 and 2010.

He's very experienced.

And I'm playing the role of Foreign Secretary.

Jack Straw, speaking as the Foreign Secretary, is far more blunt.

Prime Minister, the elephant in the room here is what the US is going to do.

In the past, we were confident that the US would be with us.

Now, the question I raise is, as well as quotes hitting the phone to professional opposite numbers in NATO headquarters and command centres...