It's clear that Anna has inspired many here, such as Heather, who first knew her over 30 years ago when they were both working at the same bank.

The Anna that I knew in the early '90s was a very fun-loving, vivacious Anna.

Still that Anna.

Long, blonde, curly hair with ringlets.

She would walk with purpose, and to see her ringlets bouncing, full of fun, extremely efficient in her job.

Anna's wheelchair, Heather noticed, was decorated with frogs, and those have a special meaning.

The frog, and I didn't know this when I was privileged to work with Anna in the early '90s, that Anna had lots of frog mementos on her desk.

I had no idea why.

Yeah

...

the, the joke [laughs] is just basically about how I, you know, like, I have fi- six of my...

Five of my children are allergic to nuts.

Right.

And then I just kinda go into explaining how he found out about it, 'cause he was, like, [laughs] 13, but he lost it when he was, like, a year old.

Also, also known as TMS.

Also known as TMS [laughs] totally.

Um, so I was on pain medication.

He referred me to a pain management doctor because I just, I wasn't getting better, and I couldn't weight-bear.

Like, I was missing all the milestones.

Like, I was supposed to be, I think I was supposed to be weight-bearing at six weeks, and I just, I couldn't.

Like, it, and, and, and my, my foot and leg were terrifying to look at, and everybody would just recoil, whatever doctor I went to.

if you're taking a standardized test, and you look at the clock and you see the time is ticking away, and you only have 15 minutes to finish, like, your, then you can't even read the paragraph, you know? So it's, it's very normal.

She raises money for the cancer center at the local university.

A lot of my growing up was in Wisconsin, and my dad's side is from Wisconsin, so I have spent a lot of time in supper clubs around the state.

She made sure I did things right here.

You have not been to a supper club if you've not had a grasshopper at the end of your meal.

Heather is trying to enjoy the time she has left with her family in its current configuration.

He's doing chemotherapy at the moment just to halt it in its tracks, buy a little bit of time.

He has thankfully got a fairly slow-growing cancer, so he should be able to last a fair few years, and hopefully old enough for Will to have memories of him in person, rather than just looking at photos and videos.

Definitely brings a lot of sadness at times, too.

Um, when Will does really happy things, it's not just a joyful moment of happy things, it's a moment of he's not gonna be here to see these soon.

[gentle music]

Meanwhile, Zoe's husband is 55 and she is 47, and dun, dun, dun, deep in the weeds of perimenopause.

I feel like I'm losing it, [laughs] like, a lot of the time.

No.

We fought over the phone.

I had to get 911 called.

We have to make sure everyone's okay.

I tried reasoning with him to let me save Ashley.

Getting Ashley help was not getting me anywhere.

We have to make sure Josh is okay.

[gunshotScott was so involved with Mahaffey to the point of he would commit murder for him. The following morning, the men head for Heather's house, where they're convinced Ashley must be staying. She's here. They've got one murder under their belts. It was one of those situations that felt desperate. [gasps]

What you got, Heather?

So obviously I'm a longtime runDisney runner, but I had a really awesome experience this weekend to bring a first-timer and get to experience the expo with them.

And if you ever have the opportunity to introduce somebody to runDisney and bring a first-timer, it's like experiencing it anew again, just to see them-

Right

... at the Callaway table.

It, it just, it really kind of like renews your, like, runDisney spirit to just experience that with them.

To, like, push myself and to practice.

I just think going backpacking is too ambitious for what you've realistically given yourself.

You let yourself down f- in this particular way-

I don't wanna be stuck, but I can't figure out how to get moving.

When you hurt your back, I was six months pregnant, and I had to do everything for, like, two months physically with our son.

I was so mad at you.

You said, "I feel like you're blaming me for hurting my back," and I said, "I do blame you for hurting your back." You didn't, like, totally disagree with me.

I want you to be healthy, and I want you to feel good about your body, and I wanna feel good about your body.

[laughs]

My first two pregnancies were fairly easy.

Um, and this one has been awful.

Uh, and I was, have been feeling awful since the beginning.

So I had a hunch, and then you do blood work, and they test for your HCG levels, and my levels were, like, off the charts.

So then I was like, "Okay, I feel like something's up here." So when I went to the first ultrasound, I, I was, like, preparing for bad news again or something, and almost immediately the ultrasound tech was like, "There's two." Like, "You're having twins."

What would you, Heather, tell Tori and Caitlin and all those other Lady Gang preggers women about the birth and then, like, the first few weeks? Like, what do you wish you had known or what wish you had bought? Like, is there, like, a hot Heather tip that you can be like, "Make sure you get a night nurse," or, "Make sure you get this specific thing, 'cause after your body's wrecked you're gonna want this diaper." Like, what is the thing?

Yeah.

What are you looking forward to at Great Wolf, Heather?

Heather?Oh, just for fun.

I've never been.

It'll be my first time.

Mm

... or the pink drink now have an extra kick for the perfect midday reset.

Or try something new like the mango strawberry Energy Refresher or the Mango Dream Energy Drink.

Can't blame them.

Oh, but you can.

I do.

You know what my very cool, low-key, self-righteous little zit of a business partner said to me last week? She said, "Heather, you don't understand how data streams work, and if you don't understand the data, then you don't understand our business." It's embarrassing.

Ouch.

She wants me out.

I can feel it.

But how do I respond? I send her a selfie with Nikki Delgado hoping it'll win her back somehow.

And now I'll let them tell you, in their own words, what they took away from this conversation.

Hi, Ramit and team.

It's been about a week since our call.

Just wanted to say thank you again for taking the time to meet with us.

It was intense.

It was a little exhausting.

I was in a full body sweat following the three-hour ordeal.

I'll get back to you guys on my next follow-up.

[laughs]

... thought it must be at that stage.

And then they put the, the urn with the ashes on the boat.

[pensive music] But it was only the two Asian men that were going on the boat, which we also thought was very strange.

I asked them, "Why aren't they going?" Yeah, one of them, well, Stevie wasn't well, and Ravel said he didn't like boats, and the other one was a bit scared.

So [laughs] I went, "Oh, well, I guess fair enough I guess," but it did seem very strange that they were sending their brother with s- people from a different culture.

And they didn't appear to be very close to them.

[laughs]

Grainger, for the ones who get it done

That was my first feather experience.

I've gotten several o- um, over the trips here and there, different places.

Um, I felt, I feel like that's, that's fairly interesting.

Okay, so that was, yeah, we'll call Devil's Break Camp, where possibly there was one looking at me in the window, which is why I jolted awake so fast.

Um, don't know that for sure, but, uh, you know, over the years and, and my experiences, I kind of lean towards a more of a possibility.

Um, we've gone all over Louisiana public lands, uh, several places of private lands we've been invited to, um, to look into.

Granger, for the ones who get it done

Her friend Heather was at work when she got the call.

I answered the phone, and it was the most horrible...

Sorry.

Um, the most horrible scream and cry I've ever heard out of another person.

And she could barely get the words out.

I was just like, "What's wrong? What's going on?" She didn't even know how to put together what she had seen and what she had experienced.

Now, it was clear.

He was testing the waters that night before the wedding, if that was a testing of the waters and had not been something that he had done before.

That is, until the day she found out what Mike had done.

And I was like, "Holy shit." Knowing what I know now, I should have been like, "Get out." [gentle music]

She was increasingly erratic.

She was just so paranoid, accusing us of doing things behind her back, saying things behind her back, and the only thing we were doing behind her back was talking about how worried we were about her and what was going on.

But to her, Saskia didn't seem happy at all.

The entire time that Sas is up and they're doing the ceremony, they're far apart.

But Saskia didn't seem like herself.

She seemed unnerved, and I said, "What's going on?" And I thought maybe she was just nervous about the wedding.

She said...

And I can't remember if it was, like, the very night before or some night previous to the night she came over.

She said that her and Mike had been out drinking, and they went back to the house, and they started having sex.

And she saw a laptop was open, and there were people on the screen.

Sounds like she dealt with this before.

Yeah, yeah.

And so, uh, I, I asked her later, I said, "So I didn't know your house was haunted." [laughs] Like, what? She said, "Oh, yeah, there's..." She said, "We have, I think, two of them that they usually just walk around upstairs, back and forth, but typically, like, later at night, and sometimes around the rest of the house." And I was like, "Oh, my gosh," 'cause I had stayed over there a few times, like, down in the living room, and, you know, like, heard what I thought was just house noises.

And, and then I started paying attention to, like, her cats, and her cats would watch things that weren't there.

And [laughs] you know, it just kind of blew my mind because I'm...I didn't consider it something that was really a possib- it was like, like I, I knew people had mentioned having ghosts in houses, but it was one of those things where like it-

I mean-

And it creeped me out so badly for years just thinking that this...

It was such a strange experience, and the fact that I touched it and, um, and it was so cold, I- it just gave me the chills.

Get her.

Um, he was abducted this morning at 10:00 AM outside of our house.

Um, ICE surrounded him and pushed him to the ground and cuffed him and put him in a car.

Um, he's a US citizen.

He was born in cor- corn country.

Um, after 9/11, he signed up for the Army to serve his country.

He served in Iraq.

That's right.

(laughs)

Like, my mom started screaming my dad's name, and I just heard one gunshot.

We love you, Alex.

All right.

You can find me on Instagram at heathernikknails.

That's Heather, N-I-K-K, nails.

And I'm also at Mirror Mirror Hair Salon in Rivergate.

Always.

[laughs] I don't know how to say it any other way.

I'm just, I'm so proud of my kid.

But I'm more proud of her ability to stay calm, and we have a fighter, not, not, uh, not a flighter, in the fight or flight.

[laughs] She's always been an exceptional kid.

Do you have anything that you'd like to say about your, your family, uh, specifically this, this year?

year?We're just super thankful.

We, we realize every day that we, we really got blessed with great kids, and, um, we're proud of them.

He'll get to play, uh, Legos or reading time if he can complete his work early.

I feel like public schools are set up like a factory.

Like, a bell rings, you sit down, you know, you do your work, a bell rings, you stand up, you go someplace else, and that's not how kids are built.

He's bored.

He s- often tells me it's boring.

About a week or two ago, he told the teacher, "This is boring." (laughs) And he said he wanted to go home (laughs) be- because he said home was more fun.

Ben calls it six cruel hours of our lives, you know, an acronym for school.

He doesn't like it.

He'll get to play, uh, LEGOs or reading time if he can complete his work early.

I feel like public schools are set up like a factory.

Like, a bell rings, you sit down.

You know, you do your work.

A bell rings, you stand up, you go someplace else.

And that's not how kids are built.

He's bored.

Due- [laughs] because he said home was more fun.

Okay, Heather, you have a meet cute story.

Yes, so it takes place at Central Michigan University.

It was New Year's Eve 2008.

I was up there after Christmas to go back to work.

My roommate Mary was up there with me, and my neighbor, our friend Kelly, was also there.

And Kelly at the time was dating this fraternity guy.

They're actually now married, but the fraternity was having a New Year's Eve party.

Is he a student at this point? I've never known a student to have a dog on campus.