I mean, was this your first time going to the Oscars?

Yes, that would've been, I think.

But yes, Milk was definitely, and I remember, I remember where I was sitting, and I was an executive producer on the movie.

So that was I s- I would say my first kind of, like, auteur film experience in, in a sense, overseas, to work with someone like Gus Van Sant.

And to see the way in which he made movies, which was, I wouldn't really see that again until I worked with Jean-Marc Vallée when I made Wild.

But there are certain filmmakers who just want all the stuff around them taken away, and Gus was one of those.

And I-

Sure

Mm

... like, cut from that cloth, where, you know, if there's a need, then we can help in any way we can.

So I think there's that.

But also, I think, I definitely have restructured things a bit in the last few years.

I've definitely, as I've gotten older- Kind of taken a more thousand foot view, and, and I have gotten a little bit to the point where I'm like, anyone who runs a business, I mean, I just have so much respect [laughs] for anyone who runs a business, 'cause I think until you do, the stress of, like, you know, just maintaining and, and paying people.

Mm-hmm.

And so, and I definitely do feel like sometimes, you know, through some of the more difficult times, I have worked to pay other people when I'm not paying myself.

Yeah

Yes.

Which is basically a kind of concert film plus extra.

And one of the things that wowed me...

My daughter is, she loves Billie Eilish.

But one of the things that struck me so deeply about watching the concert film documentary is the level of passion and connection that her fans, these young people all over the globe, feel for her.

Mm-hmm.

I'd never experienced anything like it, and it made me think, like, "What was that for me?" Now, I am a self-confessed not a music person at all, but I feel like when I was younger, I was.

And so I'd love to know from all of you, that's why I set you this homework, and I know you're kind of all really into music, what was that for you? Who was that artist for you, or what was that song that really made you feel connected?

Yeah

... and they put on these amazing productions.

So I got really interested in the arts because of that.

So one of the things that happened, and it's kind of important as part of the story, I think, when I was at that school, in the school production, this film crew came to my school, and I was 13.

And the woman, actually, Christina Posan, which I produced a movie with, was the producer.

And they were making a series of documentaries called Pop Movie about, you know, different things in the arts, and the director was this guy Ray Argall.

And the cinematographer was Mandy Walker, who you probably don't know this, but, like, is one of Australia's female most known cinematographers in the world.

Mm.

So as a person who goes as the date of this person or if you go and you don't have skin in the game, do you go in in the cars and like walk the red carpet or do the same kind of way as everyone else?

So I think one of the good things about the Oscars is now obviously like it's a bit weird.

Like I'm like what am I doing here? A little bit, right? Because I've been before where I've had movies that have been nominated or like I felt like I had a reason to be there.

But as a member of the Academy there is a sense of like pride I think in going to the Oscars.

This year I really went because our fellow Aussie, Rose Byrne, who's a friend who I just worked with was nominated for My friend Liza Marshall produced Hamnet.

Like I just had people involved in movies.

So I felt invested but also I loved the movies this year.

And I think like I wore out my finger from holding it down on there.

At all much.

Well, I don't shower much.

Like I'll have a shower once every few weeks.

Oh, my

Do you bath every day?

no that would be that would be a no i just have always felt that i could you know clean myself in other ways like a cat lick