那刚才你也提到不同的，就是汽车啦，都有在不同的年份啊，试过被人入侵啦。那我也想了解回刚才你提到的一点都很重要啊，因为呢，这次他们这个发现呢，就是说发觉原来黑客入侵的时候呢，居然连密码都不使用呢，就已经是可以入侵到汽车那个的中央控制系统啦。那么当然刚才你说啦，就是可能一些刹车啊，或者是 engine 啊，就是引擎部分呢，那么始终都还有一些加密的情况。但可能大家都会担心啊，那么因为这次呢，其实就是所涉及的范围呢，呃，哇，就是叫做危险，其实都刚才我们也提到，那个危险性都仍然是有的。因为呢，就是如果你行车的期间呢，可能那个灯突然间是，呃，亮一下熄一下，甚至是如果你在黑夜的时候熄灯啊，这些呢全部都是一些危险的，就是驾驶的一些可能性来的。那么其实，呃，在这次的这个的情况，从网络安全工程的角度去看呢，这个算不算是一个，呃，人为的疏忽呢？还是还是其实是因为我刚才提到的一点，就是可能是因为现在的那个中控系统实在可以管理太多东西，而引致到可能很大量的这些问题也都会是同样地发生。

我们看回，如果它是真的一个没有密码，可以由任何环境去接触，就是不一定在这个修车的地方接触啦，又可以拿到这些这么多权限的界面呢，那么其实都是一个很严重的设计的问题的。那就有些人可能说，哦，可能是方便那些修车那些人去维修啦，所以才去，不去设个密码。那么但是方便维修和安全其实都不冲突的。那么我们给回一个例子啦，那么这个好多公司的这个电脑部门，有一次都要去遥距地去支援同事的电脑，那么但是不代表因为去方便他们去修电脑呢，就去这个，去取消这个登入的密码了，是。正确的做法呢，那就应该是有需要的人才可以进入去，而且只是给他有需要的权限。那么我们看回这个网络安全有个最基本的原则啦，就是这个一个人只应该是应该有需要完成他们的工作的最低的权限咯。那么英文就叫做 least privilege access。但是我都要补充回一句啦，那么其实这个都没有完整地交代怎样去去到这个界面，所以我就不可以去推论没有密码，那么就可以网上面任何人都可以去随时要登入一辆比亚迪了。

总之如果是一些外来的广告呢，大家就要，就是特别去小心处理了。那讲回汽车方面啊，我们刚才都提到呢，这次呢，由于这个的报道呢，那么也都是有西方的视角啦，那么因为是 ABC，就是我们澳洲本地的媒体啦，去看的，大家都会将它的集中点放在一些，就是中国的品牌啦，那尤其是因为现在都挺多新兴的中国品牌呢，就是进入澳洲了。但是其实我又想了解回，就是其实，就是譬如现在一些较为新兴的，你即使是西方品牌，或者是大厂做的一些电动车啊，或者是混能汽车啊这些呢，可能都是，个情况都一样的，他们可能会将所有的这些的操控呢，都集中，甚至是可能都挺多，就是网络上面的连接的。那么其实在，就是安全的角度来看，其实他们是不是同样地都是，呃，会有被黑客入侵的危机，甚至可能都会，会发现，可能，就是入侵了之后都会做到他们刚才，就是所讲的这个测试里面的东西，就是可以控制到车的某些部分啊，或者是可以，就是打开你的隐私去找到某一些的，就是个人的资料啊，这样。

那么其实都是的，那么就这个好像一开始我讲过的2015年啦，有部车就，被 hack 了，被攻击成功的。那么就有些研究员呢，要他这样去进入了车的系统，最后呢，导致了有这个一百四十万辆车去被回收的，是。那么也，也都2016年左右啦， Tesla 的 Model S 也有被公开展示攻击，那么 Tesla 也都最后都有，这个，收回这个漏洞的。所以这个是全球所有的汽车工业的问题了。至于是不是这个现行的大厂是不是一定做得较好呢，那么其实我就不会用这样东西来判断啰，是。那么可能有些厂商的这个网络安全就比较成熟，那么就例如说会有一些不同的这个计划，去这个给一些安全研究员找一下有没有漏洞，然后去给回他们啦，也有这个定期的修补它们，是。同，同一时间，例如说 Tesla 那么都有这个汽车的漏洞的报告，那么也都，我们也都见到啦，在欧洲那边啦，也开始有规定去要求车厂要成立这个车的网络保安安全的管理，以及软件更新的管理的规定了。

Yep.

So that shows good race pace.

McLaren have good qualifying.

Norris has a good qualifying.

He seems to have got used to the car.

Was unlucky not to win Miami.

Ferrari seem nowhere.

And then Albon and Sainz are 14 and a half and 13 and a half.

Let's see you sleep through a pile of snakes.

Well, if we...

Well, so looking at sleep, it says, "4d10 hit points worth of creatures into a magical slumber," which would include party members.

The question is, do we think that they have fewer hit points than those of us-

Is the poll closed?

Before it disappeared, I think we were at 81% yes, but it's not popped up anymore.

I don't know if that means it's done or-

And again, it pisses me off that The Hip weren't mainstream around the world.

Yeah.

Well, when I saw them on SNL and Dan Aykroyd, it was my friends, The Tragically Hip, and they, they pan over and they're playing that intro to Grace Too, and Gord is just being Gord.

There's something in the bottom that's screaming, "Stop what you're doing and pay attention to this." It was like, how in the world was I one of a few Americans who got it? It was so blatant and obvious to me that this was something new and different and important in a way I could never describe.

I don't know why, I don't know why I'm one of the few Americans who've said, "This is the greatest band of all time," on first hearing.

They just blew me away.

And then they come back and do Nautical Disaster and it's like, I didn't even know for 15 years when, until JD mentioned it on the podcast that the song has no chorus and doesn't rhyme.

[laughs]

So what kind of results are you guys seeing, you know, um, right now actively with your agents?

Yeah, dude.

Um, so, so Tristan can definitely expand on a lot of this stuff on more tactical ways, right? But, like, um, the agent we're talking about is Kenneth Connell, right? So it was 11 appointments for Monday alone.

So it wasn't, like, 11 appointments for the next five or six or seven days.

It was just for from one day, 11 appointments on his calendar, right? Um, but look, you know this, Josh.

I mean, we talk about this all the time is, like, there are 100,000 different ways of generating business, you know? And there's just, you know, when I got into real estate, it was expireds, cancels, for sale by owners.

That's really what I focused on, and then open houses was just supplemental thing for me, right? In your situation, I think you still talk about, you know, open house is probably one of the best ways to go about it, right? But what we have found out on, especially in the last three to four years, is the fact that the number of transactions just, uh, in totality of it in the United States are down as much as 40%.

Um-

But before we get into any kind of episode by, or I should say moment-by-moment breakdown, what was your general impression of this particular episode?

Well, I was, you know...

I, I'm s- sort of almost a broken record with this show.

I just tend to love it in general, and I, I really loved this episode.

Probably not quite as much as the last one, which I thought was one of the best episodes of the series.

But I still thought this was really, really good.

The funny thing is that what I didn't take too many notes about it, 'cause I was watching it work and...

[laughs] You gotta take these people's phones away.

Glancing, I think

...

but, but we felt we needed something to stretch us a bit more and do something completely different.

And somebody said, "Have you ever heard of the Great American Loop?" Um, and that was the beginning of December 2023.

And in January '24, we agreed to buy a boat in Florida, and we started the loop at the, uh, beginning of April 2025.

No, 24.

For that month.

That, for that month.

Yeah

... and off, you know? Disappear.

And when Khamzat show up, actually, that was the feeling I had, because I have seen many guys in the same way.

But one week, two, three, one month, two, three, and he's still there working hard, you know, was living in the gym.

And I confess that in the beginning I didn't put much energy on him, until he really proved that that was exactly what he wanted, you know? And the, the day that everything switches was after a grappling class and he was submitted by a few guys, and he came to me and ask, you know, "Coach, I need help with this and this.

All the time these things are happening, and I don't know what to do." So then that was the first time that I actually put the energy on him.

And since that day, he was always showing more and more interesting on, uh, learning and develop and improve and listening.

Yeah.

After the guy had neg- rejected me.

Yeah.

Well, my experience was, uh, I knew because of, uh, the problems with the TSA at the airport, I knew there were gonna be crowds.

I have the pre-check thing that I got years ago to be able to go through earlier.

But when I checked...

And I knew a, a taxi from Manhattan to JFK would be just as-- The traffic is unbearable, even at, you know, 4:30 in the morning and 5:00 in the morning.

That, uh, so and, and I knew, I w- I said, "All right, I'll just walk to Penn Station," and I checked the, the train schedule.

Where does it stand in the pantheon of Dopey events that you've attended?

Tell us what happened.

Well, uh, my uncle, this is his story really.

I'm retelling it for him.

And, uh, this was probably back in the mid... 50s, but my grandma was really sick with pneumonia.

In fact, the doctor didn't think she was gonna make it through the night.

Mm.

And my uncle went in there, um, I don't know whether just to check on her or if she needed something.

But he went in the room, he saw three people, like, beings, and he said they looked like they were made of white light sitting on her bed.

Why don't you tell the story to the Dopey Nation?

Well, all right.

Well, it, it, it, it was yesterday, but you were making fun of my opulent kayak ramp last week, and I was explaining to the Dopey Nation that it was not an opulent kayak ramp.

It was my dock that broke and submerged, and half of it or a third of it was in water.

And therefore, you could get a kayak on and off, but the dock was useless being half submerged.

So I fixed it.

Do you have the jack in one hand and the cinder block in the other? Paint a picture for me.

Uh, the answer is, the answer is no.

Thank you for joining us, and tell us what happened.

Uh, thank you for letting me be on here.

Um, we was going to the cemetery.

It was, it was the middle of the day, and it wasn't for any, like, spooky reasons.

I was just getting, uh, pictures of symbols on headstones.

I was doing a little, little video thing on it and what they mean.

And, uh, well, the first thing, we didn't realize this, tie this until later, but when we pulled into the, the cemetery and started to get out, the, the truck kept dinging like the keys were still in it.

Oh, that's smart.

[chuckles] Oh, God.

It's like the first season- the first season feels very, like, we're soapy.

We, we got a lot of young, hot people.

It's like Euphoria, Succession.

But then there's an episode in the last season, in Season 3, it's like a bottleneck episode.

I think it's called White Mischief.

I can't remember off the top of my head, but it stars, like, um, the character Rishi.

Mm-hmm.

So that's fucked up.

U- uh, a lot of it too, it's like, the Biden cognitive whatever coverup, this about how his team was mean to her, all of it just reads as like the Democratic Party has no idea what the fuck it's doing.

And like-

Okay.

... i- if the, if the, if this is what, like...

And I don't know, I, I...

To me, she feels done.

Like, I feel like, I feel like as, like, a populist, we're done with her.