Writing Off Social: The Podcast | Build Your Platform and Grow Your Email List Without Social Media
Jun 30, 2026 · 32 min · 10 segments
After nearly 100 podcast episodes, more than 50 guest interviews, and 3 years of coaching writers, we've learned a few things we definitely did NOT know at the beginning. Some of them surprised us…
Sandy CooperHost
Mary K. TillerHost
And I remember specifically, Mary Kay, we chose that name because we did not want to say without social media because we were afraid we were going to scare people away.

That way, if people want to stay on social media, they won't not come to our little group.

Was that the number? I want to say it was 130, 120, whatever it was, it was way more than we expected.

So from there, it grew into a podcast that you're listening to now and a beta course in 2023.

We have a masterclass on podcast guesting and a guided social media break in two formats, an email series and a just released hard copy.

And I remember specifically, Mary Kay, we chose that name because we did not want to say without social media because we were afraid we were going to scare people away.

That way, if people want to stay on social media, they won't not come to our little group.

Was that the number? I want to say it was 130, 120, whatever it was, it was way more than we expected.

So from there, it grew into a podcast that you're listening to now and a beta course in 2023.

We have a masterclass on podcast guesting and a guided social media break in two formats, an email series and a just released hard copy.
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