Witchy Shit by Design with Michaela Gaffen Stone
Sep 25, 2026 · 1 hr 16 min · 13 segments
What happens when you stop looking outside yourself for permission to be who you are? Michaela welcomes Lady Sapphira and Lorna Gale for an unapologetic conversation about sexuality, embodiment…
Lorna GaleGuestLady SapphiraGuest
Michaela Gaffen StoneHost
You know, it's, it's interesting as Lady Safira has talked about, you know, this, this, disconnection, if you will, of so often this sense of our bodies.

I grew up in a very conservative religious home, a beautiful family, beautiful community.

And very much that sense of identity and sexuality all, you know, has been very narrow, is the word that comes.

And it wasn't until I was in my 40s and I looked back and I thought, why was I so disconnected from my sexuality? And I looked at it and I thought, ah, at some level, this teaching of save yourself for marriage, it wasn't just about how, okay, now it's okay to have sex.

It's not only legal, but sort of moral all of a sudden, that label and container that gets put in that lens.

But at some level I took it to mean that my body isn't mine, my sexuality isn't mine, it's for the husband, it's for the marriage.

And so in the marriage, it was this part about finding or I almost lost myself that sense of identity became as I mentioned earlier wife and mother and loved it you know it just that's who I was but different pieces along the way I call them these shock effects that happen along my journey that have sort of okay Lorna it's time to start waking up it starts time to start seeing things from another perspective and And that included sexuality.

So when my girls were raised and they were out of the home, it felt like, okay, I need to find out who am I as a sexual erotic being.

And so I started to take different courses and trainings and the body electric and the yoga of sex.

And it was really about connecting in the body, moving past those levels of shame, disconnection, like shame, disgust, self-loathing.

And even it took me to this place of existential shame, the shame that I even existed.

I wasn't the only one that had various traumas around sexuality or disconnection around sexuality or this idea of look outside of yourself for authority, permission, pleasure, validation.

And where I worked as a practitioner, as a somatic sexologist, I also had one of my colleagues there said, hey, Lorna, there's bond massage.

You know, it's, it's interesting as Lady Safira has talked about, you know, this, this, disconnection, if you will, of so often this sense of our bodies.

I grew up in a very conservative religious home, a beautiful family, beautiful community.

And very much that sense of identity and sexuality all, you know, has been very narrow, is the word that comes.

And it wasn't until I was in my 40s and I looked back and I thought, why was I so disconnected from my sexuality? And I looked at it and I thought, ah, at some level, this teaching of save yourself for marriage, it wasn't just about how, okay, now it's okay to have sex.

It's not only legal, but sort of moral all of a sudden, that label and container that gets put in that lens.

But at some level I took it to mean that my body isn't mine, my sexuality isn't mine, it's for the husband, it's for the marriage.

And so in the marriage, it was this part about finding or I almost lost myself that sense of identity became as I mentioned earlier wife and mother and loved it you know it just that's who I was but different pieces along the way I call them these shock effects that happen along my journey that have sort of okay Lorna it's time to start waking up it starts time to start seeing things from another perspective and And that included sexuality.

So when my girls were raised and they were out of the home, it felt like, okay, I need to find out who am I as a sexual erotic being.

And so I started to take different courses and trainings and the body electric and the yoga of sex.

And it was really about connecting in the body, moving past those levels of shame, disconnection, like shame, disgust, self-loathing.

And even it took me to this place of existential shame, the shame that I even existed.

I wasn't the only one that had various traumas around sexuality or disconnection around sexuality or this idea of look outside of yourself for authority, permission, pleasure, validation.

And where I worked as a practitioner, as a somatic sexologist, I also had one of my colleagues there said, hey, Lorna, there's bond massage.
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