Feb 19, 2026 · 32 min · 10 segments
Geoffrey Garrett, Dean of the Marshall School of Business at USC and former Dean of the Wharton School, has spent his career at the center of some of the world’s most respected institutions. But in…
Geoffrey GarrettGuestJamie GrennyHostThe AI4X model is, it's a powerful framework, not just for universities, but for corporate America.
What does it mean for our society? What does it mean for our children and their future career opportunities? How do you address that concern?
And right now, I think the biggest one in a university context is a paper that came out early this year called Your Brain on Chat GPT.
In the study, there were at least two groups of students doing the same project.
The finding was that the group of students who used AI did better work faster, but they didn't understand it as well.
In a university context, if we think learning is everything, we say, let's make the classroom an AI-free zone because that's the way we're going to privilege learning.
The second you leave the university, people are going to ask you to use AI tools because of the productivity enhancements.
So I think the core challenge for us in a pedagogy sense is how can we help students maximize the productivity gains of AI while also ensuring that they really understand what they're doing? And that's a big challenge.
And what do you do about that? I think the simple answer is you can't ask fact-based questions on multiple choice tests because the AI is going to be brilliant at that.
What you need to do is to create assessment opportunities for students to synthesize, to have a unique perspective on issues, not to follow the crowd.
I mean, there's a criticism of AI that it's going to narrow the range of perspectives because everyone will use the same chat.
But what we have to say to the students is you need to put yourself on top of that.
And then what's it mean for the world of work? There are going to be a lot of people who work for them and other people in society who are going to worry that they're going to lose their jobs as a result.
And to my mind, that's a core part of the responsible AI piece that has to be central to any educational initiative.
Listening to you describe this, it strikes me that education may be more valuable right now than any other moment that I can remember.
Students are stepping into this world that is changing at an unprecedented pace.
The AI4X model is, it's a powerful framework, not just for universities, but for corporate America.
What does it mean for our society? What does it mean for our children and their future career opportunities? How do you address that concern?
And right now, I think the biggest one in a university context is a paper that came out early this year called Your Brain on Chat GPT.
In the study, there were at least two groups of students doing the same project.
The finding was that the group of students who used AI did better work faster, but they didn't understand it as well.
In a university context, if we think learning is everything, we say, let's make the classroom an AI-free zone because that's the way we're going to privilege learning.
The second you leave the university, people are going to ask you to use AI tools because of the productivity enhancements.
So I think the core challenge for us in a pedagogy sense is how can we help students maximize the productivity gains of AI while also ensuring that they really understand what they're doing? And that's a big challenge.
And what do you do about that? I think the simple answer is you can't ask fact-based questions on multiple choice tests because the AI is going to be brilliant at that.
What you need to do is to create assessment opportunities for students to synthesize, to have a unique perspective on issues, not to follow the crowd.
I mean, there's a criticism of AI that it's going to narrow the range of perspectives because everyone will use the same chat.
But what we have to say to the students is you need to put yourself on top of that.
And then what's it mean for the world of work? There are going to be a lot of people who work for them and other people in society who are going to worry that they're going to lose their jobs as a result.
And to my mind, that's a core part of the responsible AI piece that has to be central to any educational initiative.
Listening to you describe this, it strikes me that education may be more valuable right now than any other moment that I can remember.
Students are stepping into this world that is changing at an unprecedented pace.
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