When Killers Get Caught: A True Crime Podcast
Aug 13, 2026 · 42 min · 11 segments
In 1974, 21-year-old pharmacy student Rhonda Stapley accepted a ride from a polite law student named Ted. What followed was a nightmare in Big Cottonwood Canyon and an extraordinary escape into a…
Brittany RansomHost
There's one detail about today's case that I just wanna get out there right in the front.

Now, in 2026, with everything we know about serial killers, stranger danger, rideshare safety, I'm sure there's somebody out there going, "Girl, why would you get into a stranger's car?" But before we get into this, I want you to get out of 2026 and take yourself back to 1974.

She accepted a ride from a stranger and that didn't carry the automatic red flags that it does today.

College kids caught rides all the time, and most importantly, the name Ted Bundy didn't mean anything yet.

There were no documentaries, no streaming specials, no true crime podcasts dissecting his every move.

To Rhonda, he was just a polite guy offering her a ride, and within a matter of hours she would be fighting to survive him.

And slowly, that gut instinct that we've all felt, that quiet whisper telling you that something is terribly wrong, became impossible for her to ignore.

A big part of what we're tackling today is the mythology built around Ted Bundy, the myth of this charming genius predator who could hypnotize anyone with just a smile.

Rhonda's experience gives us a very different and far more accurate picture of who Ted Bundy was because the second that Bundy believed he had control, the polite disappeared.

How did a 21-year-old college student beat him? But before we talk about October 1974, I want you to know about who Rhonda Stapley was before she ever met Ted Bundy.
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There's one detail about today's case that I just wanna get out there right in the front.

Now, in 2026, with everything we know about serial killers, stranger danger, rideshare safety, I'm sure there's somebody out there going, "Girl, why would you get into a stranger's car?" But before we get into this, I want you to get out of 2026 and take yourself back to 1974.

She accepted a ride from a stranger and that didn't carry the automatic red flags that it does today.

College kids caught rides all the time, and most importantly, the name Ted Bundy didn't mean anything yet.

There were no documentaries, no streaming specials, no true crime podcasts dissecting his every move.

To Rhonda, he was just a polite guy offering her a ride, and within a matter of hours she would be fighting to survive him.

And slowly, that gut instinct that we've all felt, that quiet whisper telling you that something is terribly wrong, became impossible for her to ignore.

A big part of what we're tackling today is the mythology built around Ted Bundy, the myth of this charming genius predator who could hypnotize anyone with just a smile.

Rhonda's experience gives us a very different and far more accurate picture of who Ted Bundy was because the second that Bundy believed he had control, the polite disappeared.

How did a 21-year-old college student beat him? But before we talk about October 1974, I want you to know about who Rhonda Stapley was before she ever met Ted Bundy.