What’s the Point? with Richard Denniss
Sep 28, 2026 · 19 min · 10 segments
On this episode of What’s the Point?, Richard Denniss explains what’s really driving inflation in Australia and why interest rates aren’t actually the only way to control it. This episode was…
Richard DennissHost
Anna ChangHost
First question, Richard, is what is inflation and why are we always trying to tackle it?

So if you're going to the shops and bread's dearer and milk's dearer and petrol's dearer, that's inflation.

Now, the way economists measure inflation, well, that's a bit of a can of worms.

There's lots of different ways that it can be measured and different countries measure it differently.

But in Australia, the most common thing we do is we have this thing called the Consumer Price Index, and that involves the Australian Bureau of Statistics literally going out into the shops a lot, going online a lot, ringing up and trying to buy electricity a lot and keeping track of all the prices.

So inflation for people means prices going up, inflation for economists usually, but not always means the consumer price index.

So most people would prefer to have low inflation rather than high inflation.

But in Australia, we've become so scared of inflation and the Reserve Bank is so scared of inflation that we are willing to really hurt people with mortgages to jack up interest rates.

Sometimes we've even had recessions and caused mass unemployment because we're so scared of inflation.

So if inflation is just things getting more expensive, how do they measure it? And is it just things?

So the good folk at the Australian Bureau of Statistics are literally out there measuring the price of bread, the price of tomato sauce, the price of pasta.

But what people probably don't realise is that we're only measuring prices in the capital cities.

The Australian Bureau of Statistics measure of inflation, the consumer price index, just refers to prices in the eight capital cities.

So that's a big thing because people who live in those areas might be experiencing much bigger price rises, especially when petrol's been expensive, but we're not capturing that data.

First question, Richard, is what is inflation and why are we always trying to tackle it?

So if you're going to the shops and bread's dearer and milk's dearer and petrol's dearer, that's inflation.

Now, the way economists measure inflation, well, that's a bit of a can of worms.

There's lots of different ways that it can be measured and different countries measure it differently.

But in Australia, the most common thing we do is we have this thing called the Consumer Price Index, and that involves the Australian Bureau of Statistics literally going out into the shops a lot, going online a lot, ringing up and trying to buy electricity a lot and keeping track of all the prices.

So inflation for people means prices going up, inflation for economists usually, but not always means the consumer price index.

So most people would prefer to have low inflation rather than high inflation.

But in Australia, we've become so scared of inflation and the Reserve Bank is so scared of inflation that we are willing to really hurt people with mortgages to jack up interest rates.

Sometimes we've even had recessions and caused mass unemployment because we're so scared of inflation.

So if inflation is just things getting more expensive, how do they measure it? And is it just things?

So the good folk at the Australian Bureau of Statistics are literally out there measuring the price of bread, the price of tomato sauce, the price of pasta.

But what people probably don't realise is that we're only measuring prices in the capital cities.

The Australian Bureau of Statistics measure of inflation, the consumer price index, just refers to prices in the eight capital cities.

So that's a big thing because people who live in those areas might be experiencing much bigger price rises, especially when petrol's been expensive, but we're not capturing that data.
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