Brad Larschan: Where the Graphene Revolution Meets Fintech

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What you always have to ask yourself is what is the cost benefit analysis when you talk about price, right? So is it a net savings or is it a net cost, a net cost increase to what you want to achieve? So with the lower quality materials, it's a very close call because creating that graphene only gives you very limited improvement because the, it typically bonds the carbon of the graphene bonds with oxygen.

And that really prevents a lot of graphene's superlative qualities from being realized.

So you get very marginal increases in material and then you're adding cost, right? So the cost of creating graphene to make a road better is, has to be measured over the lifetime of the road because it does increase the cost of building the road right so in that case it's a pretty close call and there are really low margins now let's talk about on the other end the ltdf graphene at the top end of that The cost is significant to create that graphene, but what you achieve is either not achievable with any other material, or you actually save money Because the material that you're replacing costs more than the graphene itself.

So I would say the higher the quality of the graphene, the greater the cost benefit analysis is.

And the lower the quality of graphene, the closer that decision is.

And you have to really amortize it over the useful life of the product you're trying to increase.

So let me try to bring this down to a specific example.

Let's say in high power electronics, AI data centers, everything, right? The biggest problem today is heat, right? Yeah, big.

It's heat.

It's a huge problem.

Water

usage, the whole thing.

Yeah, absolutely.

Electricity wastage, usage, water usage, environmental issues, and so forth.

So why do we have heat? Well, we have heat in power electronics because we use copper, right? as the interconnect between the chips that go into it or between the units, right? And copper is an okay conductor of electricity, but we use it because it was all we had in the past.

Right.

So copper actually wastes a lot of electricity to heat because of the inefficiency of using the copper material.

So if you're mowing your lawn and you put your hand on the coil in your motor.

Which you don't want to do.

Which you don't want to

do.

Right.

Because it's hot.

It's like a hot stove.