We've All Done It: Leadership Development Tips for New & Struggling Leaders
Jul 12, 2026 · 51 min · 13 segments
In latest episode of **We've All Done It podcast**, **Transitioning from Peer to Leader: Best Tips for Leading Friends,** Kimberly is joined by Erin Dallas and Jerry Benoit to discuss the what happens…
Kimberly BenoitHost
Jerry BenoitGuest
Erin DallasGuest
It's hard for some people because it goes from someone that you could really shoot the shit with.

Like you could gossip, you could talk about what you heard and all these different things about work.

And the minute they become management, it really becomes you have to be careful what you say because otherwise you're being a tattletale or snitch.

So because this person, if they're your friend, they know the stuff that you have done and will do.

You're still friends with that person, but you know you can't act the way you did with previous management.

Even if you were following the rules, sometimes you bend them and I love to gossip and you just can't do that anymore.

fascinating, that's a fascinating take because I feel like most people actually feel the other way of like, oh, my friend's now the boss.

That's the perspective you have is like, oh, now I'm going to get called on my shit.

I've been the employee who had a peer that was elevated above and then was reporting to a friend.

I've had some of my peers that felt that the floodgates could open because I was now their supervisor and that they could get things pushed through faster, things that they wanted.

They could talk about other people and it made it easier for them to, I guess, be unrestricted.

I've seen it go the other direction where to Aaron's point, they're like, uh, yeah, they know where all my skeletons are and they know exactly how I, I worked and kind of weaseled my way around company policies or what the company needed me to do.

It's hard for some people because it goes from someone that you could really shoot the shit with.

Like you could gossip, you could talk about what you heard and all these different things about work.

And the minute they become management, it really becomes you have to be careful what you say because otherwise you're being a tattletale or snitch.

So because this person, if they're your friend, they know the stuff that you have done and will do.

You're still friends with that person, but you know you can't act the way you did with previous management.

Even if you were following the rules, sometimes you bend them and I love to gossip and you just can't do that anymore.

fascinating, that's a fascinating take because I feel like most people actually feel the other way of like, oh, my friend's now the boss.

That's the perspective you have is like, oh, now I'm going to get called on my shit.

I've been the employee who had a peer that was elevated above and then was reporting to a friend.

I've had some of my peers that felt that the floodgates could open because I was now their supervisor and that they could get things pushed through faster, things that they wanted.

They could talk about other people and it made it easier for them to, I guess, be unrestricted.

I've seen it go the other direction where to Aaron's point, they're like, uh, yeah, they know where all my skeletons are and they know exactly how I, I worked and kind of weaseled my way around company policies or what the company needed me to do.
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