Oct 5, 2026 · 41 min · 12 segments
In this episode, Tom Bosna speaks with Cherie Clonan, Founder and CEO of The Digital Picnic, about redefining ambition, sustainable performance and creating workplaces where people can thrive without…
Tom BosnaHost
With um, from the side of ambition and that idea of redefining ambition for yourself, as time has gone on, The Digital Picnic probably has gone through many maybe trials, tribulations, or transformations-

I'm just wondering from your perspective, you run the thing essentially on like enthusiasm and adrenaline, but then there's probably a point where you have to like let go of some things, um-

But also practically you have to roll out some, maybe some changes that, for your business to succeed without you, um-

I'm just wondering how you view that in terms of looking at ambition a little bit differently.
I think the people who really start to have those 45-minute bumps to their workday and so on are the ones who just are without ego and realize-
... they're not that important, and I wanna give other people a chance, you know? I want...
Our mission statement at TDP is that you're meant to come to our workplace to do the best work of your career.

With um, from the side of ambition and that idea of redefining ambition for yourself, as time has gone on, The Digital Picnic probably has gone through many maybe trials, tribulations, or transformations-

I'm just wondering from your perspective, you run the thing essentially on like enthusiasm and adrenaline, but then there's probably a point where you have to like let go of some things, um-

But also practically you have to roll out some, maybe some changes that, for your business to succeed without you, um-

I'm just wondering how you view that in terms of looking at ambition a little bit differently.
I think the people who really start to have those 45-minute bumps to their workday and so on are the ones who just are without ego and realize-
... they're not that important, and I wanna give other people a chance, you know? I want...
Our mission statement at TDP is that you're meant to come to our workplace to do the best work of your career.
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