We Can't Work It Out: Famous Feuds & Fallouts in Rock Music
Sep 27, 2026 · 33 min · 9 segments
For nearly a decade, Karen Carpenter recorded almost exclusively under her brother's direction. Then Richard stepped away from the Carpenters to recover from addiction, and Karen was suddenly given a…
Last time, Richard Carpenter's dependence on Quaaludes finally brought The Carpenters' machine to a halt, sending him to the Menninger Clinic and leaving Karen with something she had almost never possessed during her adult life, professional space without her brother.
But before Karen Carpenter could make a solo album, she needed Richard Carpenter to tell her that she could.
Flights had been booked, studio time arranged, and producer Phil Ramone was waiting for her in Manhattan.
Yet with everything ready to go, Karen broke down and told Richard she could not do it unless she knew he was behind her.
She wanted badly to prove that she could make music on her own, but she did not want independence to mean rejection of Richard.
After nearly a decade working so closely that she later compared him to a third arm, simply walking away without his blessing felt almost impossible.
At one of her first production meetings, Phil Ramone asked the obvious question.
If she could make any kind of record she wanted, what did she wanna do? Karen immediately began talking about Donna Summer.
Summer's Hot Stuff was one of Karen's favorite records at the moment, and Karen told Ramone she would love to make something like it.
She also talked about Aretha Franklin, Barbra Streisand, and the disco records filling clubs and radio stations.
Less than twenty-four hours after Richard had asked her not to make disco, Karen was sitting with her new producer explaining how much she loved it.
What interested her was movement, rhythm, and the possibility of sounding different from the records she had been making for ten years.
She had watched The Bee Gees completely reinvent themselves and talked admiringly about their ability to go wherever the music led them.
New York in 1979 was exploding with disco, funk, soul, and new wave, while records like Heart of Glass, Ring My Bell, He's the Greatest Dancer, and Herb Alpert's Rise were changing what mainstream pop could sound like.
Arranger Rob Mounsey remembered the New York studio world as rougher, faster, and less manicured than Los Angeles, filled with musicians moving constantly from session to session.
Last time, Richard Carpenter's dependence on Quaaludes finally brought The Carpenters' machine to a halt, sending him to the Menninger Clinic and leaving Karen with something she had almost never possessed during her adult life, professional space without her brother.
But before Karen Carpenter could make a solo album, she needed Richard Carpenter to tell her that she could.
Flights had been booked, studio time arranged, and producer Phil Ramone was waiting for her in Manhattan.
Yet with everything ready to go, Karen broke down and told Richard she could not do it unless she knew he was behind her.
She wanted badly to prove that she could make music on her own, but she did not want independence to mean rejection of Richard.
After nearly a decade working so closely that she later compared him to a third arm, simply walking away without his blessing felt almost impossible.
At one of her first production meetings, Phil Ramone asked the obvious question.
If she could make any kind of record she wanted, what did she wanna do? Karen immediately began talking about Donna Summer.
Summer's Hot Stuff was one of Karen's favorite records at the moment, and Karen told Ramone she would love to make something like it.
She also talked about Aretha Franklin, Barbra Streisand, and the disco records filling clubs and radio stations.
Less than twenty-four hours after Richard had asked her not to make disco, Karen was sitting with her new producer explaining how much she loved it.
What interested her was movement, rhythm, and the possibility of sounding different from the records she had been making for ten years.
She had watched The Bee Gees completely reinvent themselves and talked admiringly about their ability to go wherever the music led them.
New York in 1979 was exploding with disco, funk, soul, and new wave, while records like Heart of Glass, Ring My Bell, He's the Greatest Dancer, and Herb Alpert's Rise were changing what mainstream pop could sound like.
Arranger Rob Mounsey remembered the New York studio world as rougher, faster, and less manicured than Los Angeles, filled with musicians moving constantly from session to session.
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