Sep 21, 2026 · 21 min · 8 segments
Lilly Ettinger explores Jonah alongside the prophetic tradition of bringing anger, disappointment, and protest directly to God. What if complaint isn’t a failure of faith, but part of a faithful…
And to back up, I do think it's important to tell y'all like how I read scripture today.
I am a person who still believes that all scripture is useful and that all of it is true.
We have to acknowledge that how we understand that truth content matters a lot by genre.
The truth of poetry isn't in taking metaphors literally, but in understanding like the human emotions that are going on.
The truth in creation stories may or may not be literal, but it's also about the nature of the relationship of God and humanity.
And one of the ways that I have learned to read scripture and to understand it is that it makes sense psychologically.
It shows us as like very multifaceted humans, people who are curious and angry and helpful and anxious and vindictive and jealous and happy and kind and willing to shame each other and conflicted and capable of doubling down on the wrong decision.
And if I'm reading it in a way that doesn't make sense for people, then I'm probably not reading it the right way.
And to back up, I do think it's important to tell y'all like how I read scripture today.
I am a person who still believes that all scripture is useful and that all of it is true.
We have to acknowledge that how we understand that truth content matters a lot by genre.
The truth of poetry isn't in taking metaphors literally, but in understanding like the human emotions that are going on.
The truth in creation stories may or may not be literal, but it's also about the nature of the relationship of God and humanity.
And one of the ways that I have learned to read scripture and to understand it is that it makes sense psychologically.
It shows us as like very multifaceted humans, people who are curious and angry and helpful and anxious and vindictive and jealous and happy and kind and willing to shame each other and conflicted and capable of doubling down on the wrong decision.
And if I'm reading it in a way that doesn't make sense for people, then I'm probably not reading it the right way.
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