Un-Billable Hour: Business Management Strategies for the Busy Lawyer Around the Community Table
Sep 8, 2026 · 45 min · 13 segments
In this episode of the Un-Billable Hour’s Seat at the Table: How do you know when a hire isn’t working out (*hint: you already know*) and then pull the trigger and let them go? - It happens: you…
Kristen DavidGuestChristopher T. AndersonHostJeff LevinGuestRuby PowersGuest
Ben MaddenGuestBut so, Kristen, since you went last with the interest, I'm going to start with you here.
How do you know? So, like, let's talk about before the firing actually happens.
But how do you know that you've reached the point of no return and it's time for that termination?

Well, we can start with if you wake up three mornings in a row thinking about somebody that's not your spouse, they got to go.

I mean, if they are overhauling your whole emotional and mental space and that's what you wake up to, that's a pretty damn good sign.

But listen, I'm a big fan of opportunity plans and giving people a chance to, you know, be a part of resurrecting their position.

I want them to show their opportunity and show that they're going to commit to step back up.

And since, Christopher, you threw it out there, I'm going to tell the quick, funny story.

The third time that morning I went out, gave her the highlighted, redlined, like, please correct this statement.
But so, Kristen, since you went last with the interest, I'm going to start with you here.
How do you know? So, like, let's talk about before the firing actually happens.
But how do you know that you've reached the point of no return and it's time for that termination?

Well, we can start with if you wake up three mornings in a row thinking about somebody that's not your spouse, they got to go.

I mean, if they are overhauling your whole emotional and mental space and that's what you wake up to, that's a pretty damn good sign.

But listen, I'm a big fan of opportunity plans and giving people a chance to, you know, be a part of resurrecting their position.

I want them to show their opportunity and show that they're going to commit to step back up.

And since, Christopher, you threw it out there, I'm going to tell the quick, funny story.

The third time that morning I went out, gave her the highlighted, redlined, like, please correct this statement.
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