What's, how do you know if it's someone who needs coaching or someone who needs to go?

So, you know, the biggest thing is making sure that feedback is there.

As the son of a lawyer and knowing how much lawyers love to argue, they really are conflict avoided when it comes to their own staff.

So it's really having that chance to sit down and talk to the employee, understand what's going on.

Sometimes there could be a personal issue that they don't want to talk about.

There could be a whole host of things.

But again, to Kristen and Jeff's point, a pip typically just means that they're writing this documentation to get you out the door.

So the more that's figured out, the less awkward it'll be and you'll be able to just sort of get it all done in that sitting.

What's, how do you know if it's someone who needs coaching or someone who needs to go?

So the biggest thing is making sure that feedback is there.

As the son of a lawyer and knowing how much lawyers love to argue, they really are conflict avoided when it comes to their own staff.

So it's really having that chance to sit down and talk to the employee, understand what's going on.

Sometimes there could be a personal issue that they don't want to talk about.

There could be a whole host of things.

But again, to Kristen and Jeff's point, a pip typically just means that they're writing this documentation to get you out the door.

So the more that's figured out, the less awkward it'll be and you'll be able to just sort of get it all done in that sitting.

How does that make you feel to know that these four white marlin helped elevate you, propel you towards the top, almost to the top?

It's great.

We had a phenomenal day.

Saw a lot of fish and lucky to, uh, lucky to have the chance at catching them.

What, what would you use to describe the conditions offshore today?

Uh, it was a little choppy out there, but...