Oct 13, 2026 · 28 min · 11 segments
How does nature fit into the tipping points framework? With so much focus on the climate in debates, nature can be forgotten. In the second part of our series from the Global Tipping Points 2026…
Paul TurnerHost
Jan BebbingtonHost
Tamara seemed to believe that having talked about accountancy, that it would make it up to me by bringing benchmarking-

So benchmarking and accounting all at once, and, ugh, I don't know what went wrong there.

[laughs] What I really liked about it is that background and, and corporations and understanding financial markets and understanding what trading floors are like, but also a background working for, you know, a large multinational, transnational entity.

All of that knowledge and expertise has been pulled forward to really champion nature, and that you don't have to have a, you know, particular background to be, uh, an advocate for nature and to be able to run projects that really make nature sing.

Yeah, and coming from Singapore, where, as we discussed at the minute, is really feeling the brunt of the wildfires that we mentioned briefly in the first episode of this miniseries that are taking place in Borneo, and the smoke and everything is coming over here as far as Kuala Lumpur, and further, in fact, into the Southeast Asian area.

And having that perspective and br- tying that in with the family perspective and how that all ties in with business, how it all ties in with nature, seeing it all come together i- is really interesting.

I did like what Tamara said, that nature can be good for business, and that's, uh, a really key point.

And I also liked she agrees with the principle that business is not the villain in this piece when it comes to nature, when it comes to tipping points, and that business is part of the solution and part of working around it all.

And I think the cleverness of, of how she spoke about it is that if you can help finance and business celebrate the source of value, which is nature, then you can move towards nature positive business.

Now, of course, that doesn't leap out, um, you know, preformed into the, the, the context that we're operating in.

So that, [laughs] that day by day working, building up coalitions, building up funding models, looking at different ways of, of financing, um, you know, water funds, et cetera, et cetera, as needed.

So that's, you know, it's hard work, and I liked it wasn't cheap and cheerful, she said.

Tamara seemed to believe that having talked about accountancy, that it would make it up to me by bringing benchmarking-

So benchmarking and accounting all at once, and, ugh, I don't know what went wrong there.

[laughs] What I really liked about it is that background and, and corporations and understanding financial markets and understanding what trading floors are like, but also a background working for, you know, a large multinational, transnational entity.

All of that knowledge and expertise has been pulled forward to really champion nature, and that you don't have to have a, you know, particular background to be, uh, an advocate for nature and to be able to run projects that really make nature sing.

Yeah, and coming from Singapore, where, as we discussed at the minute, is really feeling the brunt of the wildfires that we mentioned briefly in the first episode of this miniseries that are taking place in Borneo, and the smoke and everything is coming over here as far as Kuala Lumpur, and further, in fact, into the Southeast Asian area.

And having that perspective and br- tying that in with the family perspective and how that all ties in with business, how it all ties in with nature, seeing it all come together i- is really interesting.

I did like what Tamara said, that nature can be good for business, and that's, uh, a really key point.

And I also liked she agrees with the principle that business is not the villain in this piece when it comes to nature, when it comes to tipping points, and that business is part of the solution and part of working around it all.

And I think the cleverness of, of how she spoke about it is that if you can help finance and business celebrate the source of value, which is nature, then you can move towards nature positive business.

Now, of course, that doesn't leap out, um, you know, preformed into the, the, the context that we're operating in.

So that, [laughs] that day by day working, building up coalitions, building up funding models, looking at different ways of, of financing, um, you know, water funds, et cetera, et cetera, as needed.

So that's, you know, it's hard work, and I liked it wasn't cheap and cheerful, she said.
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