The ANC is losing the ability to even lead itself

Yeah, look, Amela, it was bound to happen.

I mean, the moment the SACP decided that it was going to contest the ANC, it was going to be a big battle.

There's going to be a fight because it's the same pool.

They're fighting for the same support base, ANC, SACP members, whole dual membership of both the ANC and the SACP.

SACP members hold dual membership of the SACP and the ANC.

And the supporters, the people who vote for them, who go to the rallies, those SACP members would necessarily always back the ANC.

So they'll be fishing in the same pond.

And so the closer we got to elections...

it was bound to happen that there would be, the tensions would be heightened.

And then what then happens is Figile Mbalula a few months ago issues a directive, a directive that SACP members, leaders who campaign for the SACP, that SACP members must choose who they will be campaigning for.

Are they going to be campaigning for the ANC or are they going to be campaigning for the SACP? Make a choice.

It's an ultimatum.

And obviously, a lot of those leaders are officeholders.

They are either in cabinet at national level.

They are in provincial cabinets.

Some of them are MMCs and some of them are just MPs.

Some are MPLs and some are councillors.

So if you are an SACP member and you are in those positions on an ANC ticket and you are forced to make a choice, and most of them have made that choice.

I mean, yeah.

I haven't

seen Putimana Mela.

I haven't seen David Masondo.

I haven't seen Sobe

Hiana.

Poppy Ramachoba, for instance, on this.