"There I was..." An Aviation Podcast
Jan 8, 2026 · 27 min · 10 segments
Brad Cohen test flies his homebuilt Zenith Zodiac 601 XL. About 20 hours into testing, while working on departure and accelerated stalls, Brad enters an unexpected spin.
Brad CohenGuest
David O'LearyHost
What were the takeaways, Brad? This was six years ago, and it sounds like you've done a pretty good job of laying it out there for us, with humility, by the way.

This is where I made a mistake, and I want to tell the world about it, to have others learn from it.

So I don't think I really appreciated the takeaways then as much as I do now, right? I mean, I'll be like, okay, I did a stall spin.

But what I have found is on my very next BFR, Whenever the instructor mentioned stalls, I started to have, I don't want to say a panic attack, but I started getting a bit nervous and started getting the sweaty palms and started getting a little bit dry throat.

The idea of doing any stall moving forward really, really scared me a lot, a lot more honestly than I thought it would to the point that I mean, I don't want to say that I avoided doing stalls because everybody needs to be proficient at doing slow flight and stalls.
Yeah.
get the air belt.
We'll do a couple

What were the takeaways, Brad? This was six years ago, and it sounds like you've done a pretty good job of laying it out there for us, with humility, by the way.

This is where I made a mistake, and I want to tell the world about it, to have others learn from it.

So I don't think I really appreciated the takeaways then as much as I do now, right? I mean, I'll be like, okay, I did a stall spin.

But what I have found is on my very next BFR, Whenever the instructor mentioned stalls, I started to have, I don't want to say a panic attack, but I started getting a bit nervous and started getting the sweaty palms and started getting a little bit dry throat.

The idea of doing any stall moving forward really, really scared me a lot, a lot more honestly than I thought it would to the point that I mean, I don't want to say that I avoided doing stalls because everybody needs to be proficient at doing slow flight and stalls.
Yeah.
get the air belt.
We'll do a couple
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