Sep 17, 2026 · 43 min · 10 segments
Government debt around the world is at unprecedented levels - and so is the cost of borrowing, which means there's less to spend on hospitals, school and defence. So why is the debt so big, and the…
Muhammad Ali NasirGuestPhil DobbieHost
Roger HearingHostSo just on that thing about future generations paying for their forefathers loans.
Just as people talk about the magic money tree, there's not a magic money pit either.
So future generations, if you die and you hold bonds, the future generations will get your bonds.
What actually will happen, though, is that the people who are wealthy and invested in bonds will be having the money.
And if the government spends less, then the people who normally are recipients of government spending won't get as much.
There'll be people who own that debt who will do quite well because they're holding the bonds and they're getting the commissions on it.

What do we need to do next? No, the point in all this is what's interesting, and, you know, I mean, I barely understand anything about Bond.
So just on that thing about future generations paying for their forefathers loans.
Just as people talk about the magic money tree, there's not a magic money pit either.
So future generations, if you die and you hold bonds, the future generations will get your bonds.
What actually will happen, though, is that the people who are wealthy and invested in bonds will be having the money.
And if the government spends less, then the people who normally are recipients of government spending won't get as much.
There'll be people who own that debt who will do quite well because they're holding the bonds and they're getting the commissions on it.

What do we need to do next? No, the point in all this is what's interesting, and, you know, I mean, I barely understand anything about Bond.
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