The Cash Flow vs Growth Decision Every Investor Faces

All right.

Another thing is, uh, I've been watching you for over years and you definitely are an inspiration how you're transitioning and really you are, call it no, lifestyle commercial real estate investor where you put a lot of focus on not necessarily how many square feet you'll acquire, but how much time and effort and life will take out of that.

So I know you transitioned from building a massive team, I think being in 10 plus or even more states.

And right now we have a little different approach.

Do you mind sharing that? And I know you're super happy about this decision, but do you mind sharing with me and the audience how is that going for you and why did you make that choice?

That's a great question, and I think everybody should.

you know, really

focus on this piece because when I first got started, it was all about, you know, building a business, building financial freedom, you know, really creating a team that could execute at a high level and really just building up the portfolio to a size that, you know, I felt like, hey, you know, this is going to meet certain, you know, Goals of mine that I've had, right? It's certain inspirations that I've had over time.

And so just recently, just kind of give you a couple stats there.

So I've done about $260 million in transactional volume at any given time.

I'm, you know, around a hundred million in assets under management.

Mm-hmm.

And like a couple of years ago, you know, I'd hit a lot of milestones and said, okay, well, what's next? And it was, well, why don't we, you know, go bigger, right? Why don't we get, you know, start a development arm? Why don't we start a, you know, residential building company? You know, all these different ideas that were kind of popping up and there was opportunities to get involved.

And so we opened a second office and started hiring more folks and I just realized how I was really getting away from what my ultimate goal was from the beginning, which was financial and time freedom.

And, you know, back then I didn't have a family.

I didn't have kids.

Now I've got two boys, five and seven.

And, you know, a couple of years ago, I was like, man, if I do the ball and chain thing here, I'm going to miss out on a lot of amazing years with my family, with friends, my friends with just, you know, really kind of the direction I was going was like 60, 70 hour work weeks was imminent, right? Based on our new ambitions were to kind of grow the company.

And I realized, wait, that is not what I want.

You know, that's actually, it sounds great, you know, kind of like the shiny object syndrome.

I definitely have that.

You know, I get excited easily about getting into new projects and, you know, continuing to build.

But at the same time, I have to I have to hold myself back because when I really sit down and think about it, it's not truly what I wanted.

And so, yeah, we kind of went, I went through this transitional period where I moved to a bigger city, opened a second office, started hiring, and then realized, yeah, I need to make a big life decision here and go back and regain my clarity.

So that's what I did.