Jul 21, 2026 · 48 min · 14 segments
## Episode Overview In this episode of The Uncertainty Edge, host Sam Sivarajan sits down with Jeff Panik, founder of Balance Wealth Partners and a financial advisor with nearly 26 years of…
Jeff PanikGuest
Sam SivarajanHost
it's really a matter of really difficulty because of just the way the system is set up.

And I think when we chatted before, that situation hasn't really changed much, right? I mean, whether in the US or in Canada, I mean, this idea of teaching financial literacy in high school, for example.

There are lots of courses that are mandatory across all programs, whether it's languages or maths or sciences, even, you know, potentially advanced math or science.

But I think I use personal finance skills on a daily basis far more than I ever did calculus.

And there's not as much motivation, I think, on the legislative side because of the lobbyists that are with the credit card companies.

You can start adding up the groups that are involved in terms of loading young adults up with debt and putting them in bad positions.

And you end up in a situation where, you know, no one's really teaching consumer finance.

It's more, you know, if you take a finance class in high school, if you're lucky enough, a lot of it's probably more economics and things that...

What they need to learn is how do you write a check if you have to? How do you open a bank account? How do you get the most out of your money? And how don't you make a lot of mistakes that a lot of young adults do because they just don't know any better? And, you know, I'm extremely sympathetic because that's kind of the background that I came from.

And it's only, I think, in some ways gotten worse because of just the amount of leverage and just the amount of information that's out there.

And, you know, if you turn on a football game, you'll probably see every other ad.

But you just said something that is actually intrigued me because it's a perspective I hadn't actually thought of before that.

The resistance to kind of provide in this kind of literacy curricula, for example, in high school, that you attribute some of that, at least that resistance to coming from lobbying from, you know, financial firms, etc.

I hadn't thought about it that way, but it sort of makes sense, right? It's against their interests to have an educated consumer out there that understands compound, has a better understanding of compound interest, etc.

it's really a matter of really difficulty because of just the way the system is set up.

And I think when we chatted before, that situation hasn't really changed much, right? I mean, whether in the US or in Canada, I mean, this idea of teaching financial literacy in high school, for example.

There are lots of courses that are mandatory across all programs, whether it's languages or maths or sciences, even, you know, potentially advanced math or science.

But I think I use personal finance skills on a daily basis far more than I ever did calculus.

And there's not as much motivation, I think, on the legislative side because of the lobbyists that are with the credit card companies.

You can start adding up the groups that are involved in terms of loading young adults up with debt and putting them in bad positions.

And you end up in a situation where, you know, no one's really teaching consumer finance.

It's more, you know, if you take a finance class in high school, if you're lucky enough, a lot of it's probably more economics and things that...

What they need to learn is how do you write a check if you have to? How do you open a bank account? How do you get the most out of your money? And how don't you make a lot of mistakes that a lot of young adults do because they just don't know any better? And, you know, I'm extremely sympathetic because that's kind of the background that I came from.

And it's only, I think, in some ways gotten worse because of just the amount of leverage and just the amount of information that's out there.

And, you know, if you turn on a football game, you'll probably see every other ad.

But you just said something that is actually intrigued me because it's a perspective I hadn't actually thought of before that.

The resistance to kind of provide in this kind of literacy curricula, for example, in high school, that you attribute some of that, at least that resistance to coming from lobbying from, you know, financial firms, etc.

I hadn't thought about it that way, but it sort of makes sense, right? It's against their interests to have an educated consumer out there that understands compound, has a better understanding of compound interest, etc.
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