Jul 7, 2026 · 47 min · 15 segments
Ava Roberts spent years working as a clinical psychologist before becoming the author of six thrillers. Her latest, *The Summer House Murder*, follows three estranged sisters forced together each…
Ava RobertsGuest
Marc NadeauHost
It felt kind of built into this one that there was a question of of likability at times, but then relatability came in because you didn't like something they said or did.
I thought how interesting to see things from different people's perspective, like the different sisters perspective, and that it does feel unlikable or you feel like you can't relate to it.
And then when you get the deeper picture, it is something you can relate to where you understand where they're coming from.
For me, just part of trying to make them feel like real characters and real people, because sometimes that can be a little bit missing from the thriller genre.
And I think that just makes it more compelling really when there's layers of their personality or what they're doing and their motivations.
It felt kind of built into this one that there was a question of of likability at times, but then relatability came in because you didn't like something they said or did.
I thought how interesting to see things from different people's perspective, like the different sisters perspective, and that it does feel unlikable or you feel like you can't relate to it.
And then when you get the deeper picture, it is something you can relate to where you understand where they're coming from.
For me, just part of trying to make them feel like real characters and real people, because sometimes that can be a little bit missing from the thriller genre.
And I think that just makes it more compelling really when there's layers of their personality or what they're doing and their motivations.
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