Start Small, De-Risk the Build (with James Harcourt)

So as someone who has run a company with developers and project managers and clients, clients just, you know, they're really an interesting animal, right? Have you ever had any unexpected turns in the company that you maybe weren't expecting? Because I'm sure there's a story there.

I think the whole company could be described as one big unexpected turn, really.

But yeah, no, there's a lot of really interesting opportunities that present themselves.

And I guess times when we've been in rooms that we could never expect to be in.

But yeah, all of those are fantastic learning opportunities.

And the more you do them, the more comfortable you get with being in new places with new people, exploring different things, trying different new skills out.

And yeah, I think it's very good for personal development.

Running a business, you mean, or taking on projects that you don't know if you're ready for?

Unexpected turns.

Oh, unexpected turns.

Any sort of unexpected turn.

I think that's a sign that you're making really good progress.

Okay.

Tell me more about that.

I think it's a quote I heard once that was sort of something along the lines of, if you're struggling at any point, that's good because it means that you're overcoming a challenge or you've hit a corner and you need to turn or pivot or change something about yourself to, but it means you're not stagnating.

The minute that you're comfortable is

the minute that you stop growing.

So a really smart person last night that I saw said that the opportunities always lie on the edge of the boundary.

I

wonder who that was.

That might have been James.

But I think that's exactly what you're saying there is like when you are, if we're talking about comfort zone, right, and pushing themselves to learn new things.

And I think that's exactly what you're saying is like on the edge of your current knowledge is all that opportunity to do something new.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.