The Semi Interesting Podcast with Nathaniel Lucek and Elizabeth Morris
Sep 3, 2026 · 54 min · 13 segments
When you’re thinking about creating prior art to block competitors, you usually think about your company’s own patent applications. However, you can’t file a patent application on everything unless…
Sabrina ChangGuest
Elizabeth MorrisHost
Nathaniel LucekHost
We don't even know, you know, as a troll, I'm like, should we be filing on anything? Is any of this valid? Like, is it all of this old? Like, what are we doing? Right.
And I said, you know, shouldn't we be doing more DPUBs? And the response was interesting.
It's a very absolute, I'm sort of paraphrasing it, but that's kind of the response I heard back.
And I think the reality is, you know, when you're in an environment of abundance, creative solutions are not as creatively looked upon, right? Like it was sort of like, well, we're creating prior.
And as Nathaniel highlighted in the intro, The expensive way of doing it is filing.
Like you just, you know, and there are certain large operating companies that do that.
I'm not going to name them, but I think everybody knows like some programs, what they do is they just file patents, but they just maybe don't pursue them.
But that's still, you know, we have the apparatus to support that approach, but it's still just really expensive.
So I pitched this idea, but I was, you know, early in, It just wasn't the right time.
And the bigger issue is, you know, how do you do it? It was still quite expensive.
We're getting charged a couple of grand by our outside counsel to draft depot.
We don't even know, you know, as a troll, I'm like, should we be filing on anything? Is any of this valid? Like, is it all of this old? Like, what are we doing? Right.
And I said, you know, shouldn't we be doing more DPUBs? And the response was interesting.
It's a very absolute, I'm sort of paraphrasing it, but that's kind of the response I heard back.
And I think the reality is, you know, when you're in an environment of abundance, creative solutions are not as creatively looked upon, right? Like it was sort of like, well, we're creating prior.
And as Nathaniel highlighted in the intro, The expensive way of doing it is filing.
Like you just, you know, and there are certain large operating companies that do that.
I'm not going to name them, but I think everybody knows like some programs, what they do is they just file patents, but they just maybe don't pursue them.
But that's still, you know, we have the apparatus to support that approach, but it's still just really expensive.
So I pitched this idea, but I was, you know, early in, It just wasn't the right time.
And the bigger issue is, you know, how do you do it? It was still quite expensive.
We're getting charged a couple of grand by our outside counsel to draft depot.
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