The Self Led Woman Podcast: emotional eating and nervous system healing for self-leadership
Aug 9, 2026 · 48 min · 11 segments
What if the thing keeping you stuck in your relationship with food, your body, and other people isn't a lack of willpower, but a nervous system response that's been running since childhood? In this…
Kallie KlugGuest
Megan DarnellHostYeah.
Yeah.
Well, I think culturally, women especially are really, really primed to take up the least amount of space possible.
I know for me, like even in this process, speaking louder and just not even on purpose, but just letting my voice fill my lungs in a space has felt like evolution to me in a world where I'm told that I'm better when I'm quiet and palatable.
Um, Yeah, I think all women are extremely familiar with that experience of having to take up less space.
so linked to fawning like you said there I mean a lot of times we see fawning happen as a suppression of some kind of boundary expression but also like you said oh people that are sensitive or have been told that they're too much like their joy is too much or their sorrow is too much like that too when we don't feel like oh my my joy is palatable or my joy is off-putting to people that too we suppress and that also gets frozen in the body.
And anything that's frozen, there's always that presence of constriction and bracing.
And yeah, I think it really changes the physiology and literally changes the structure of the body because any kind of posturing that we hold long term, the body is so intelligent that anything we do repeatedly, it assembles our literal tissues to support that.
So if I'm like, I noticed this even on my phone, my right hand and forearm are so much more developed in the musculature because I'm always on my phone.
And so when we're always in this like chronic bracing, we get these issues around our neck, our thyroid, people get TMJ.
I've spoken about that in the podcast before and how, I mean, I've learned this from my own trauma training, but you see it now, like in the street, I'll see some girl and she's like, not like she's quite young and she's hunched over and Like, you know, like a little old lady and I'm just like, oh, wow, like what happened there? And even facial expressions, I've spoken about that, like micro expressions.
But, you know, you'll just meet someone and you're like, oh, I don't know about them.
Like they seem kind of weird or whatever, but it's like they've had a lot of trauma and there's very micro expressions that mirror fear or things like that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I think culturally, women especially are really, really primed to take up the least amount of space possible.
I know for me, like even in this process, speaking louder and just not even on purpose, but just letting my voice fill my lungs in a space has felt like evolution to me in a world where I'm told that I'm better when I'm quiet and palatable.
Um, Yeah, I think all women are extremely familiar with that experience of having to take up less space.
so linked to fawning like you said there I mean a lot of times we see fawning happen as a suppression of some kind of boundary expression but also like you said oh people that are sensitive or have been told that they're too much like their joy is too much or their sorrow is too much like that too when we don't feel like oh my my joy is palatable or my joy is off-putting to people that too we suppress and that also gets frozen in the body.
And anything that's frozen, there's always that presence of constriction and bracing.
And yeah, I think it really changes the physiology and literally changes the structure of the body because any kind of posturing that we hold long term, the body is so intelligent that anything we do repeatedly, it assembles our literal tissues to support that.
So if I'm like, I noticed this even on my phone, my right hand and forearm are so much more developed in the musculature because I'm always on my phone.
And so when we're always in this like chronic bracing, we get these issues around our neck, our thyroid, people get TMJ.
I've spoken about that in the podcast before and how, I mean, I've learned this from my own trauma training, but you see it now, like in the street, I'll see some girl and she's like, not like she's quite young and she's hunched over and Like, you know, like a little old lady and I'm just like, oh, wow, like what happened there? And even facial expressions, I've spoken about that, like micro expressions.
But, you know, you'll just meet someone and you're like, oh, I don't know about them.
Like they seem kind of weird or whatever, but it's like they've had a lot of trauma and there's very micro expressions that mirror fear or things like that.
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