Great Leaders Build People, Not Just Teams—with Dr. Michael Fraser, CEO of ACEP

My guest today is Dr. Michael Fraser, the CEO of the American College of Emergency Physicians.

But this conversation isn't really about leading an organization.

It's about leading a career.

We talk about why relationships matter more than resumes, how great leaders build great teams, and why even emergency medicine needs to rethink what a successful long-term career looks like.

If you've ever wondered what's next after mastering your profession, I think you'll enjoy this conversation.

Hello, everyone.

Welcome to another great episode of the Second Shift Podcast, where we focus on conversations with high-impact professionals as they navigate career transitions, including retirement.

I am your host, Brian Jepson.

I'm an emergency medicine physician who recently retired from clinical practice and works full-time now as a financial planner at Targeted Wealth Solutions.

I also create physician-specific financial education content on my website at brianjepson.com.

So before we get going with my guest today, just a housekeeping item.

Moving forward, and as it has been over the last couple of months, my co-host Aaron Milledge will be more of an occasional contributor, like if we do a recap episode, for example.

So Aaron has another second shift going on in his life, which is limiting his availability, but maybe we can talk to him about that in the future at some point.

So anyway, Mike, you're stuck with me today.

Hope you can

deal with it.

Definitely.

Yeah.

Anyway, up to this point, all of our guests on the podcast have been doctors, although that's certainly not a requirement.

Plenty of other professionals experience the same kind of opportunities and challenges when they explore career transitions.

But doctors definitely often deal with the kinds of things that we're talking about.

Our guest today is also a doctor, but of the PhD variety.

Not that kind of doctor.

Yeah, though he does work closely with doctors of the MD and the DO variety.

So Michael Fraser is the current CEO of the American College of Emergency Physicians, or ASEP.

My guest today is Dr. Michael Fraser, the CEO of the American College of Emergency Physicians.

But this conversation isn't really about leading an organization.

It's about leading a career.

We talk about why relationships matter more than resumes, how great leaders build great teams, and why even emergency medicine needs to rethink what a successful long-term career looks like.

If you've ever wondered what's next after mastering your profession, I think you'll enjoy this conversation.

Hello, everyone.

Welcome to another great episode of the Second Shift Podcast, where we focus on conversations with high-impact professionals as they navigate career transitions, including retirement.

I am your host, Brian Jepson.

I'm an emergency medicine physician who recently retired from clinical practice and works full-time now as a financial planner at Targeted Wealth Solutions.

I also create physician-specific financial education content on my website at brianjepson.com.

So before we get going with my guest today, just a housekeeping item.

Moving forward, and as it has been over the last couple of months, my co-host Aaron Milledge will be more of an occasional contributor, like if we do a recap episode, for example.

So Aaron has another second shift going on in his life, which is limiting his availability, but maybe we can talk to him about that in the future at some point.

So anyway, Mike, you're stuck with me today.

Hope you can

deal with it.

Definitely.

Yeah.

Anyway, up to this point, all of our guests on the podcast have been doctors, although that's certainly not a requirement.

Plenty of other professionals experience the same kind of opportunities and challenges when they explore career transitions.

But doctors definitely often deal with the kinds of things that we're talking about.

Our guest today is also a doctor, but of the PhD variety.

Not that kind of doctor.

Yeah, though he does work closely with doctors of the MD and the DO variety.

So Michael Fraser is the current CEO of the American College of Emergency Physicians, or ASEP.