Dr. Justin Mabie: Climate Change Deception

Doctor Mabey, thank you for joining us today on the Schilling Show Unleashed podcast.

Thank you for having me.

So help us to understand, when we talk about science and the scientific method, what are we talking about? 'Cause many people are not following that closely.

Uh, th- it's really an industry that surrounds science, that starts from, uh, where money comes from, the funding sources, to, uh, how research is solicited, to, to how we propose to do research, to how we publish it, and to how that research is put together for use by the public and governments and decision-makers.

Has science changed over the years as far as that goes, or has that been the way that it has been and, and will continue to be?

Well, science, like anything, evolves.

Probably the biggest change we faced in science was around World War II.

So before World War II, it was kind of a golden age of this great research.

All the brightest minds in the world, you know, were able to collaborate freely.

But in World War II, it was really a s- a science-based combat.

The, uh, technology was blooming, racing to get the nuclear weapon.

Um, all these things have caused the governments to compartmentalize science and classify a lot of it, and that kind of cut scientists off from being able to collaborate freely and more siloed our work into specialties.

Were there benefits of that? Certainly whoever was promoting those policies thought it must be good for something.

From my view, that kind of slowed down our progress.

We, we...

Like I said, we had a kind of golden age where we were progressing really, really quickly in understanding physics and, and sciences in general.

Once we did that, uh, science, I think, became more expensive, and progress was slower.

And even today, if you're in a field of science that's, that's a technically important field, like, say, material science, where you're building the latest and greatest materials for the military for advanced weapons systems, you know, you don't really have access to all the literature in the field.

So it's very difficult to understand all the tools that are, that could be available to you because so much is, is classified and restricted.

And if all that was open, we'd be progressing faster, but of course, there would be national security implications to that.

So is there any real alternative? Is there a happy medium, or are we pretty much stuck because of the national security implications?

There are probably things we can do, but that's n- that's not really my area of focus.

Okay.

Um, I, I advocate for more open sharing of science and then better collaboration with scientists.

I think the thing that we can do right now is improve how scientists collaborate.