The NACC Podcast | National Association of Care Catering
Oct 20, 2026 · 45 min · 10 segments
**We're Not Dealing with Tins of Beans: Care UK's Andrew Mussett on Dopamine, Fakaway Days, and a Bread and Butter Pudding That Saves Nine and a Half Grand a Year** Andrew Mussett arrived in care…
Rob SpenceHost
And I know through talking to you before we hit record that you've got some good expertise and passions around nutrition and hydration and some of the things that I'll touch on in due course.

But tell me a bit about the work you're putting around the nutrition and hydration side of care catering at the moment.
So we release three to four cookbooks or manuals every year where we look at things that we're targeting.
So we've looked at things like blood sugars and about how people living with diabetes don't necessarily have to not have sugar, that there are ways around giving everybody the same dessert, treating people the same way.
We've done a whole book on itsy where we've looked at a regular Selection of regular meals and then we've put the processes down on how to change it We've done retro baking because there's nothing wrong with a bit of retro And baking is one of my passions.
So really into that But we're also looking at things So we're looking more at the if you imagine food is fuel and And we all know that we need it.
There's lots of things we don't know, like the amount of vitamins we should have.
And it's the quality of the fuel we put in our bodies that actually does more work than the quantity of fuel.
So I guess we're sort of like, we're looking at what goes into things and how that can improve.
So our next big project I'm working on is serotonin and dopamine and how we can make people feel happier generally, not sort of like laugh out loud happy, but just genuinely happy.
and improve their sleep pattern but then the one after that that I'm looking at is vitamin D because we all know that residents through no fault of their own do not get as much natural sunlight as we'd like I'm not a fan of supplements myself personally so I'm looking at foods and stuff that naturally contains vitamin D and how we can increase that in the winter Simple things like adding brown chestnut mushrooms to meals adds some vitamin D rather than the white ones.

And again, I'm a, listen, me personally, I'm a big advocate for understanding, you know, it's that, it brings me back to that.

Well, very, very memorable TV program back in the day with Julian McKeith, wasn't it? I think, you know, you are what you eat, but it's true, right? You are, you are fueled by, by whatever you put in.

I mean, just on, I don't know if you can go into too much detail on this yet, but in terms of, dopamine and serotonin what impact does food have on on dopamine and serotonin
so dopamine and serotonin is created by your food in fact if anyone wants to see the effect all you've got to do is close your eyes and imagine you're going to the shop to buy a bar of chocolate imagine purchasing it then with your eyes closed imagine taking off the wrapper and eating it there's your dopamine shot It's one of the only foods you can do it with, but it just gives you that cheeriness.

And I know through talking to you before we hit record that you've got some good expertise and passions around nutrition and hydration and some of the things that I'll touch on in due course.

But tell me a bit about the work you're putting around the nutrition and hydration side of care catering at the moment.
So we release three to four cookbooks or manuals every year where we look at things that we're targeting.
So we've looked at things like blood sugars and about how people living with diabetes don't necessarily have to not have sugar, that there are ways around giving everybody the same dessert, treating people the same way.
We've done a whole book on itsy where we've looked at a regular Selection of regular meals and then we've put the processes down on how to change it We've done retro baking because there's nothing wrong with a bit of retro And baking is one of my passions.
So really into that But we're also looking at things So we're looking more at the if you imagine food is fuel and And we all know that we need it.
There's lots of things we don't know, like the amount of vitamins we should have.
And it's the quality of the fuel we put in our bodies that actually does more work than the quantity of fuel.
So I guess we're sort of like, we're looking at what goes into things and how that can improve.
So our next big project I'm working on is serotonin and dopamine and how we can make people feel happier generally, not sort of like laugh out loud happy, but just genuinely happy.
and improve their sleep pattern but then the one after that that I'm looking at is vitamin D because we all know that residents through no fault of their own do not get as much natural sunlight as we'd like I'm not a fan of supplements myself personally so I'm looking at foods and stuff that naturally contains vitamin D and how we can increase that in the winter Simple things like adding brown chestnut mushrooms to meals adds some vitamin D rather than the white ones.

And again, I'm a, listen, me personally, I'm a big advocate for understanding, you know, it's that, it brings me back to that.

Well, very, very memorable TV program back in the day with Julian McKeith, wasn't it? I think, you know, you are what you eat, but it's true, right? You are, you are fueled by, by whatever you put in.

I mean, just on, I don't know if you can go into too much detail on this yet, but in terms of, dopamine and serotonin what impact does food have on on dopamine and serotonin
so dopamine and serotonin is created by your food in fact if anyone wants to see the effect all you've got to do is close your eyes and imagine you're going to the shop to buy a bar of chocolate imagine purchasing it then with your eyes closed imagine taking off the wrapper and eating it there's your dopamine shot It's one of the only foods you can do it with, but it just gives you that cheeriness.
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