Aug 17, 2026 · 1 hr 2 min · 11 segments
Join me in this episode around shame as I sit down with David Bedrick to reframe shame as an internalized witness that dismisses our lived experience, then trace how that shows up as mom guilt…
David BedrickGuest
Becca DollardHost
I actually really appreciate what you said about this isn't to blame the mothers because I work with mothers.
And this is one of the reasons why I wanted to have you on the podcast so bad is there's this narrative all the time around mom guilt.
But when I sit with women and I hear what they're saying, I have a witness, right? I'm witnessing it.
that doesn't align with your values and you wanna change the way that you're showing up.
But I ask about, well, what happened before you're yelling at their kids and you find out that like their kid is being really mean or aggressive and it's and it's hurting them and they're having this painful response come up in their bodies and then they yell and then they feel ashamed that they yelled.
And what I what I've seen happen and witness in motherhood specifically with the women that I work with is shame becomes this cycle of this woman internalizes and shames herself.
And then it's very hard for her then when her kid has that same experience to not be a healthy witness for her kid.
As an apology, as a person from the psychology field, psychology has way too painfully focused on the mother as the perpetrator of the child's violence and later story.
I actually really appreciate what you said about this isn't to blame the mothers because I work with mothers.
And this is one of the reasons why I wanted to have you on the podcast so bad is there's this narrative all the time around mom guilt.
But when I sit with women and I hear what they're saying, I have a witness, right? I'm witnessing it.
that doesn't align with your values and you wanna change the way that you're showing up.
But I ask about, well, what happened before you're yelling at their kids and you find out that like their kid is being really mean or aggressive and it's and it's hurting them and they're having this painful response come up in their bodies and then they yell and then they feel ashamed that they yelled.
And what I what I've seen happen and witness in motherhood specifically with the women that I work with is shame becomes this cycle of this woman internalizes and shames herself.
And then it's very hard for her then when her kid has that same experience to not be a healthy witness for her kid.
As an apology, as a person from the psychology field, psychology has way too painfully focused on the mother as the perpetrator of the child's violence and later story.
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